In this captivating episode of Supernormalized, we dive into the extraordinary journey of Alicia Sweezer – a certified professional life coach whose path has defied convention at every turn. Alicia’s story is a testament to the power of embracing one’s unique gifts and finding strength in the very qualities that once made her feel like a misfit.
Alicia’s path has been marked by remarkable challenges, including multiple traumatic brain injuries that forever altered the trajectory of her life. Yet, through this adversity, she discovered a profound connection to her intuitive abilities, transforming herself from a wildlife biologist into an empathic healer and fierce advocate for those facing narcissistic abuse.
Alicia’s journey is a masterclass in personal reinvention, as she navigated the loss of her dream career and the subsequent identity crisis that followed. By tapping into her innate psychic gifts and analytical mind, Alicia has forged a new path, helping others to unlock their own authentic selves and find the courage to step into their power.
One of the key insights Alicia shares is the importance of embracing the “weirdness” that often accompanies our deepest gifts. She explains how her analytical empath abilities, which blend scientific rigor with intuitive wisdom, have become her greatest superpower – allowing her to guide her clients with unparalleled clarity and precision.
Alicia’s story is a powerful reminder that the very qualities that make us feel out of place can be the keys to unlocking our true potential. By shedding the societal expectations and embracing our unique quirks, we can tap into a wellspring of creativity, resilience, and transformative growth.
Whether you’ve ever felt like a misfit or simply yearned to step more fully into your authentic self, this episode of Supernormalized holds the potential to shift your perspective and inspire you to redefine the boundaries of what’s possible.
00:03 – Defying Convention: From Scientist to Intuitive Empath – Discover Alicia’s extraordinary journey and how she transformed her life after multiple brain injuries.
01:54 – Pivotal Moments: When Everything Could Have Fallen Apart (But Didn’t) – Explore the challenges Alicia faced and the resilience she found in the face of adversity.
02:24 – From Wildlife Biologist to Healer: A Journey of Reinvention – Hear how Alicia navigated the loss of her dream career and embraced her intuitive gifts.
03:25 – Innate Abilities or Awakened by Trauma? Unlocking Alicia’s Psychic Gifts – Delve into the mystery of Alicia’s intuitive abilities and how they shaped her path.
03:55 – Identity Crisis to Empowerment: Who Am I Now? – Witness Alicia’s journey of self-discovery and how she redefined her identity after trauma.
05:12 – The Ever-Evolving Journey: Discovering New Abilities Along the Way – Learn how Alicia continues to unlock new gifts and expand her intuitive potential.
05:38 – The Ripple Effect of Mismatched Relationships: How Energy Impacts Our Lives – Understand the profound impact of relationships on our well-being and intuitive connection.
07:52 – The Analytical Empath: A Superpower in Action – Discover the unique blend of scientific rigor and intuitive wisdom that defines Alicia’s approach.
09:34 – Following the Energy: An Intuitive Approach to Daily Life – Learn how Alicia integrates intuition into her daily routine and client work.
11:23 – Tuning In: How to Ask and Receive Intuitive Guidance – Explore the practical techniques Alicia uses to connect with her intuition and receive clear answers.
13:39 – The Hard Truth About Narcissistic Abuse Recovery: Letting Go of Judgment – Gain valuable insights into the challenges of healing from narcissistic abuse and the importance of self-compassion.
16:59 – Debunking the Myths of Personal Transformation: Embracing the Messy Journey – Challenge the common misconceptions about personal growth and discover the power of embracing the process.
19:18 – Unscheduled Feelings and Astrological Insights: Navigating the Human Experience – Explore the role of emotions and astrology in personal growth and self-awareness.
20:02 – Transformation in Action: Witnessing Powerful Client Breakthroughs – Hear inspiring stories of clients who have experienced profound shifts through Alicia’s coaching.
24:05 – Building a Business by Intuition: Lessons in Fear and Success – Discover the unconventional path Alicia took to create her business and the wisdom she gained along the way.
27:00 – From Blogs to Podcasts: Following Intuitive Guidance in Business – Learn how Alicia continues to evolve her business by following her inner wisdom.
28:02 – A Multitude of Messages: How Intuition Speaks in Different Forms – Explore the diverse ways intuition communicates and how to recognize your own unique channel.
30:41 – Embracing the Misfit: Why Feeling Weird is Your Greatest Superpower – Celebrate the power of authenticity and how embracing your unique qualities can unlock your true potential.
34:08 – Navigating the Timeline Jumps: Shifting Identity Without Losing Ourselves – Understand the current energetic shifts and how to navigate personal transformation with grace and self-compassion.
38:21 – Finding Humor in the Darkness: Laughing at Ourselves Along the Way – Discover the healing power of humor and how it can support us through challenging times.
40:43 – Creating Ourselves Anew: Embracing the True Version of Who We Are – Shift your mindset from finding yourself to creating yourself and unlock the potential for authentic self-expression.
43:59 – Bridging Science and Spirituality: Embracing Skepticism and Intuition – Explore the intersection of science and spirituality and how to integrate both perspectives for greater understanding.
46:37 – Pro Tips for Intuitive Development: Unlocking Your Inner Wisdom – Gain practical advice and resources for developing your intuition and connecting with your inner guidance.
47:51 – Connecting with Alicia: Resources and Final Thoughts – Learn how to connect with Alicia and access her free ebooks, videos, and other valuable resources.
Transcript
CeeJay Barnaby (00:03)
Today on SuperNormalize we meet Alicia Sweezer, a certified professional life coach whose journey defies convention at every turn. She’s a scientist and she’s turned into an intuitive empath, a survivor who has reinvented herself after brain injury. And also she’s a fierce advocate for those who face down narcissistic abuse. She’s a founder who built success without blueprints finding her own way into
her intuitive gifts and helping people. And she’s a bit of a misfit that proclaims superpowers where others see oddity. Alicia believes life’s obstacles aren’t walls, they’re springboards waiting for us all. And her story offers practical wisdom mixed with refreshing humor that transforms pain into power. If you’ve ever felt out of place or doubted what’s possible beyond limiting beliefs,
This episode holds new perspectives, coupled with honest insights on stepping fully into your own authentic self. From embracing weirdness as strength to defining identity, to navigating grief and building resilience, it’s all here. So stay tuned as Alicia shares through her journey, the tough truths that actually bring hope and strategies designed to anyone listening that can start shifting today.
Get ready for a grounded inspiration wrapped in real talk coaching. Let’s jump into Alicia’s world today on Super Normalized. On with the show.
Welcome to super normalized Alicia Sviza. Alicia, you’ve had some extraordinary challenges, including multiple traumatic brain injuries, and that’s changed your whole life and perspective of life. Can you walk us through some pivotal moments when everything could have fallen apart, but didn’t?
Alicia (01:54)
Um, you want to start like before birth or I’m just teasing. No, I’m teasing. Um, for all my human design friends out there, my profile is a three five. So they fully understand what the challenges look like for us with those numbers. Um, no, this last one, yes, I’ve had multiple traumatic brain injuries and, uh, this last one that I had in 2006 is really the one that was sort of cumulative and changed the trajectory.
CeeJay Barnaby (01:55)
And welcome to the show. ⁓ okay. We’re going to go that far back. All right.
Alicia (02:24)
of my life completely. And I used to be a wildlife biologist. That is what I thought I would be doing forever. That was my dream. I was able to do that. was like living my best life. And then I received this other injury and years of physical therapy, many doctors, no one sort of back then knowing how to treat these kind of, you know, post-concussive syndrome, those kinds of things. And through that journey of
trying to find things that would heal my body because I am one of the people that have a body that doesn’t fit in medical textbooks, ⁓ does a lot of things backwards, it’s very sensitive, those kind of things. And there’s so many of us out there like that, that it really took me on a healing journey of my own and the universe guided me to then be able to use my gifts that I was born with to be able to serve other people, their animals, and help them find their own path in healing as well.
CeeJay Barnaby (03:21)
So did the injury itself actually wake up some of your abilities?
Alicia (03:25)
No, this is what’s interesting, because that happens for so many people. Yeah. And for me, it wasn’t like, oh, I had this and then all of a sudden I could do these things. It was, there was so much like my ability to talk to animals. I was born that way. know, me being very clair-sensient, very clair-cognizant, like the knowing and feeling empathic, like I was born that way. I just didn’t know, because when you’re born a certain way, you just move through the world and you don’t know that it’s different because it’s like breathing to you.
CeeJay Barnaby (03:28)
It does happen for some people. Yeah, I thought I’d ask about that. That’s why. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alicia (03:55)
And so what happened through that journey, know, one, there was a massive shift in personal identity, right? And particularly in the U.S., where very much our identity is tied to what job we do. And when you no longer have that job, your world really gets turned upside down. And for me, I am a biologist, whether it’s what I get paid to do or not, it’s like, it’s how I see the world.
And so there was a lot of that process of really coming to terms with, who am I today? And who am I if I don’t do this particular thing? And who am I going to be moving forward? And a lot of people go through those, you know, that’s like why they call them midlife crisis is where people come to terms with like, I don’t even like this job or this career that I picked. I want to be doing something different. And we have this awakening that happens. And so for me, no, my psychic gifts were already there. They just sort of,
CeeJay Barnaby (04:45)
Yeah.
Alicia (04:52)
became more of the forefront and became very directed in how I live my life and how I help people and move through this world.
CeeJay Barnaby (05:01)
When they came out for you, was that something that was ⁓ innate in you when you just engaged with it? Or is it something that sort of just popped out as like, my God, I can actually experience that now. How did that sort of happen for you? All right, okay.
Alicia (05:12)
Both actually happened. Because
as you know, this journey, it’s a journey. Like there are still things that I will find someone will be someone will ask me like, can you do this? And I’ll be like, well, apparently I can. I didn’t know I could do that thing. That wasn’t one that I’ve done before, but yes, I can do that. So we’re always finding new things. Our development is always ongoing. And at the same time, there were things that I was born with that were innately there. The other thing is
CeeJay Barnaby (05:28)
Yeah, yeah.
Alicia (05:38)
You know, and this is one of the things for the people side of my business. You know, we talk so much about when we have things in our life that aren’t a match for us, how they really can affect everything. So if you’re in a job that you don’t really want to be doing, if you’re in a relationship that’s not a match, it affects every part of your life. It affects your physical health, your mental health, your spiritual health, as well as your psychic gifts. And so that was one of the things years later after this last head injury, my now ex-husband, I divorced in 2014.
⁓ And we separated in 2013 and that was really interesting because the moment we separated, I felt this flood of intuition and gifts and so many things and awarenesses coming in that because we just weren’t a match. And when you make that change, it all changes in all aspects of your life. And so many things were coming in. I was hearing animals everywhere and I was like,
and things of how I wanted my life to look and sensations and emotions and hearing things and hearing other people, it was just this massive flood that came in. So that was one of those pivotal moments also where you can sort of choose to shy away from that and be like, nope, nope, I’m gonna go back to choosing what I have chosen over the last so many years or I’m gonna choose something different in this moment and move forward with what is happening for me.
CeeJay Barnaby (06:45)
Mmm.
Mm.
Right, right. It speaks to the idea that ⁓ we all vibrate at a certain frequency and when there’s a mismatch, there’s discord. So, you know, to actually change that, take away the discord, that allowed you to actually be in accord with the universe and your infinite nature. there ⁓ was a way for it to actually manifest and be recognized.
Alicia (07:23)
Absolutely. And it’s one of the things with my pet parents, ⁓ I talk a lot about the energetics and how our energy can affect our animal and their behavior and how their energy affects us and how that affects the relationship and all of that that then goes on that could be causing challenges in the home.
CeeJay Barnaby (07:41)
Being both a scientist and a psychic isn’t something that many people relate to. How do these two seemingly opposite parts balance within your coaching methods?
Alicia (07:52)
It’s just a fabulous question. It’s my favorite. I call people like me analytical empaths because ⁓ it really is a superpower and you’re correct that not, you know, it’s not very common in the world. I’m coming across more and more of them and hopefully someday I’ll teach a class on it and, know, to help people with ⁓ their particular type of psychic development because when you do have both of these sides, the sort of traditional routes of psychic development don’t work.
They just, they’re very backwards. Like for years I kept thinking, my gosh, I’m doing this wrong, I’m doing this wrong. No, I just learn a different way. And so what it is is it’s really this bridge of the analytical part of our physical human brain that has these abilities to see patterns, to recognize the…
this shifts in things. And then when you add in your psychic ability, so for me, right, my two strongest are feeling and knowing, and then sight and sound are right behind, that adds such an extra layer that when I’m working with someone, particularly intuitive mentoring or even the life coaching, we’re talking about a relationship, I can sense the second that their energy has changed and they’re now thinking of a memory of when they’re three. And my scientific brain puts that into the pattern of behavior that they’ve had for however many years.
and then we can marry those together and shift things so quickly.
CeeJay Barnaby (09:12)
Yeah, right.
Wow, that sounds like a powerful method. I like that, that understanding of the world and the way you explained it then. So what does an analytical empath look like day to day then? And how does that shape your approach with clients?
Alicia (09:34)
For me, my world is always about following the energy. So when I wake up in the morning, I look at my planner, my to-do list of tasks that I need to do to run my business, do dishes, also take care of your home, take care of Romeo, my fabulous cat. And my intuition tells me what I’m supposed to do first. I follow the energy because if I do them out of the order, things don’t go as smoothly.
CeeJay Barnaby (09:44)
Mm.
Hahaha.
Alicia (10:00)
I get in my own way a lot, like just because people think, you’re psychic, it must be so easy. No, a lot of times it’s more challenging. And so for me, I look at the list, I feel the energy, go, okay, this is what I’m supposed to do. And then the planner part of me, cause I’m a massive planner, goes, okay, now how do I build that structure in? How do I go through writing the emails for that day? And then if the energy starts to change throughout the day, then we get to adjust to that as well.
It’s also how I schedule clients. Like when I have someone reach out, the first part I ask is, this someone I’m supposed to work with? If I get a yes, great. Then we coordinate our schedules. And if sometimes it’s so interesting, they’ll be, you know, my guidance will be like, nope, you’re supposed to see them on a Thursday. And I’ll be like, okay, I will schedule them for a Thursday. And so it’s, it’s always, always present for me of the planning part along with the intuitive part.
CeeJay Barnaby (10:56)
Yeah, it sounds like that for picking up clients that actually are meant to be on Thursday, maybe that’s meant to be in resonance with the planetary day for that day or something like that.
Alicia (11:06)
Mm-hmm.
It’s so very true. Everything I do, if I have an event, I ask the event, what day are you supposed to be on? And it will tell me. What time are you supposed to be?
CeeJay Barnaby (11:14)
Okay.
What process do you use to ask that though? I how do you, can you give us an example of how you would actually tune into that?
Alicia (11:23)
Yeah, so for me, I’ll either ask it out loud or I just ask it in my head. And so, you know, I’ll be, have this idea for an event and I’ll be like, okay, so what day is it supposed to be? And then because like I said, I’m Claire Sension, I’m a feeler, you feel into the energy. So if you run through the days, if you’re like, is this supposed to be a Monday? You can check the energy of, is it light or heavy? So if something feels light, that’s true. That’s yes, that’s a match. If something feels heavy,
It’s not a match, it’s a lie, something is false. And so that’s how I ask the question. I’ll be like, is this supposed to be this week? I get a yes or no or a light or heavy, which day? And then you just ask those questions along the way.
CeeJay Barnaby (12:02)
Yeah. that tuning in is like a, a sentient sort of feeling of, ⁓ body heaviness that you experience.
Alicia (12:11)
Yeah, and you don’t have to be like the lighter, heavy, the yes or no, like that’s a, that’s a universal energetic tool for me, because I’m a feeler, it’s a little stronger, but even people that are clairvoyant or clairaudience, everybody feels energy. That’s science. Everyone always says it’s woo woo, but energy is actually science, whether you call it vibes or energy or whatever it is. So, um, everybody has that ability to go, Oh, okay. That’s lighter, heavy, or I hear a yes or no.
CeeJay Barnaby (12:31)
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can just think back to a time that you walked in a room and thought, well, the vibe feels off here. Everyone knows that feeling, right? And if you can use that sort of as a template to understand what no is, then you can find out what yes is quite easily.
Alicia (12:43)
Right?
Absolutely. And that’s one of my favorite, you know, I do a lot of intuitive mentoring and it’s one of my absolute favorite things to do is to help people with their abilities and their skills. And it’s just, it’s so dear to my heart because I remember what it was like for me for most of my life, not having tools and trying to function in this world. And then when I learned things, I was like, my gosh, this changes everything. And I want to be able to give that to every person on this planet.
CeeJay Barnaby (13:18)
As a part of your journey, you had some extreme experiences with narcissistic abuse and I can attest to how tough that can be. I’ve been in relationships which have been, that’s sort of informed. So you’ve overcome it yourself. What was one hard truth about recovery that you’d like every listener who’s hurting right now from something like that to truly hear?
Alicia (13:39)
Ooh, yeah, so one of the biggest thing that I struggled with, my clients struggle with, friends, anyone who’s been in any kind of narcissistic relationship is the how did I not see it, the how did I not know, the why did I stay so long. And the truth is, is we all have, in my two cent personal opinion, we all have something that attracted that person to us. And for a lot of people who are empathic,
It’s really this sort of almost like the two sides of a coin because narcissists can be very intuitive as well. And they can pick up very much on the people who have the big hearts, the givers, because that’s usually what the dynamic is in those relationships. so because we’re givers, because we see the best in people, and because we came here to change the world with those abilities that we have, it’s that place of
We want to see the best in them. We give, we give, that’s how we love. And we just have those filters and we have those filters until it’s time for those filters to be removed. There is no, I should have, there isn’t a, how did I not see? It really is all divine timing and our own personal path and the growth in that. mean, I was in, you know, the relationship for 17 years and there were things I knew. Like I’m like, I know. The other part was I didn’t have the tools to change it. Like, you know, I went to therapy.
I talked about it, but there was no tools given to learn how to shift it, which is like, that’s one of the things I do. Everybody goes home for homework. Even if you come for a traditional psychic reading, you go home with homework because we, you know, we’re not, we’re, we’re going to be changing some stuff. And so my invitation to everyone would be like, let the judgment go. You didn’t do it wrong. You didn’t do it in the right time and, ⁓ or the wrong time. And you saw it when it was time to see it.
CeeJay Barnaby (15:17)
Ha ha ha ha.
For me, part of the story of ⁓ that experience myself was be able to grow past it to the point where I could have compassion towards the fact that they built this relationship with themselves and others as a survival strategy. And it’s really hard to first when you’re in it and you think, why is they so crazy? But that’s what they thought was the right way to behave to get things to happen.
Alicia (15:59)
Right? ⁓
CeeJay Barnaby (16:05)
So they feel safe, right? Because whatever caused them to feel unsafe in the first place is an ongoing thing for their whole lives. So once I recognized that and I could step back and go, okay, now I know what’s going on there, then that enabled me to even recognize that I could walk away. Because it’s not my problem to solve. I guess for some people they could hang around forever, but for me it was like many, many years and then like now.
Alicia (16:23)
Mm-hmm.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:35)
do this anymore because it’s too draining and it changed my life in a very positive way in the end too.
Alicia (16:42)
Mm-hmm.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:44)
⁓ you’ve actually mentioned some of the information I’ve read about you, but you like to help people break free from societal boxes. Now what’s one myth about personal transformation or coaching that drives you crazy?
Alicia (16:59)
Ooh, just one. ⁓ Right? ⁓ That it’s very pretty and it’s tied up in a bow and it’s very easy. And you know, there are so many, ⁓ and it’s one of my challenges. Like there are a lot of people out there in the spiritual world who sort of paint it with a broad brush like that of like, if you want to manifest something, just raise your vibration.
CeeJay Barnaby (17:02)
You can go to many if you want.
God no.
Alicia (17:27)
What does that actually look like? What are the steps to do that? Like there’s a lot of spiritual bypassing that goes on. And the truth is, is that really personal transformation is messy. It can be hard. It isn’t in a blink of an eye. Sometimes there is, we have those holy instances, right? Where you’re like, oh, I get it fast like this. But we’re looking for a long-term change here of really, really changing patterns of behavior, mindset, healing wounds that have been there our whole lives.
They didn’t get created in an instant, so they don’t always get healed in an instant. Sometimes they do, like anything is possible. We have those moments, but it’s really, it’s a process. And it’s not just the, do these three things and your life will change forever. You know, it’s not an Instagram post that you do once and then your life changes forever. It’s a process, it’s a lifelong journey, and it’s okay that it’s messy. I don’t like that it’s messy. Believe me, I like to schedule my emotions.
CeeJay Barnaby (18:01)
That’s right.
Alicia (18:25)
I don’t like people seeing that. Like I do. My friends, they all know if I text them, say, I’m having unscheduled feelings today. They’re like, and they now use that for themselves. They’re like, I did not plan these feelings for today. So a lot of it is unplanned. It is out of our control. And we get to surrender to the process of remembering why we actually came here to be our authentic selves and to find our way back to that.
CeeJay Barnaby (18:32)
No.
Yeah, personally, when I’ve had those days of, you know, unscheduled feelings, I will look at my astrology and more often than not, it’s something that’s happening in the astrology that’s usually extreme and pointed and enough to push all the way through. So then I feel it in every area of my life. So I found that to be beneficial to understand that because then I can just go, ⁓ it’s just that. And I can see the time it finishes just there. And that helps a lot. Yeah.
Alicia (19:18)
It’s so true. I have a friend,
because I’m not good at astrology, which is weird because you think with my analytical brain, like it would be this perfect match, but I’m not. And so I have this friend, she has my chart memorized and I’ll text her, I’ll be like, what are the planets doing today? Like, do I need to go up there? Because I will go up there and tell them they need to stop acting like they are.
CeeJay Barnaby (19:38)
Yeah, sometimes it plays out not only through me, but through the events around me. ⁓
But it’s good to be able to recognize it because then you can step back and go, okay, so that’s just that, that’s gonna pass. That will pass, yeah, yeah. Have you had any examples ⁓ of some of your coaching works where you’ve seen such great change that you’d like to share it, but also make it anonymous, of course.
Alicia (20:02)
there’s so many, my gosh, two of my clients come into mind is one, he was in a narcissistic relationship, a marriage, and he found me ⁓ right as they had separated. And I was sort of his first realm into any personal growth, any ⁓ healing work, that sort of thing. And it was great because he was so open to it. And…
He, for probably the first month that we worked together, the other part that people don’t talk about with the narcissistic ⁓ relationships is there’s a withdrawal process that goes on. Like you’ve been in this fight or flight mode for so long, your cortisol is so high, your adrenaline, you’ve been walking on eggshells that when that person is then removed, we stay in that pattern. Your body is still in that pattern. You can’t stop the racing thoughts.
You think, why can I not stop thinking about this person? I know this isn’t healthy. I know I don’t want to be with them, but I can’t stop thinking about them. And so that was really the beginning of the shift for him where we talked about that and we normalized it. Like this is normal. This is valid. This is what happens. And as we worked through that with him, then he started to see where he hadn’t actually been himself for so long. He was such a joyful man that that was all gone.
and he started to remember how much he liked to laugh, how much, you know, it’s kind of like the shroud comes on you. And then when that starts to get removed, you create a life from that moment then of remembering and who you really are. And he has an amazing partner now and his life looks so, different. And for all of you who think, ⁓ how do we not know? He was at the courthouse getting the marriage certificate. Because here in Arizona, you go to the courthouse, you get your marriage certificate.
CeeJay Barnaby (21:34)
Mm.
Alicia (21:57)
and you have to write down all your previous marriages. That is when he found out that she had been married five times before.
CeeJay Barnaby (22:05)
God, wow.
Alicia (22:06)
Right.
And they got married that day anyway. So when I talk about like where the people are like, how did I not see it? because the love bombing is real because this feeling that you have with them that you’ve never had before is real. And so you bypass all of those things that your logic of brain would be like, maybe we should pause for a second and like, look at this. It’s not possible in those moments because of our wounds, because of the trauma, all of those kinds of things. And so.
CeeJay Barnaby (22:10)
no.
Alicia (22:36)
⁓ we go along and he’s a completely different person now. He’s back to who he was. All of his friends are like, we’ve missed you for so long. We’re so happy that you’re back. And so those moments can really, really, really happen. And I have another client, his whole world, we worked together for years and he ⁓ had a lot of victimhood around some childhood things and he was very reactive.
And one of the things, and he’s also very empathic. like that’s one of my, you know, particular skill sets is helping people who have both of these. ⁓ they’re very in tune psychically. They don’t know it, but they also have these challenges in their life. And so when we teach them behavioral patterns of like, this is how you respond versus react. And they use their psychic gifts in those moments where they go, the energy just shifted. This is now where I go, this is my notification to myself to pause.
they can now feel that in their own body. And he now uses that, like he’s a completely different person.
CeeJay Barnaby (23:35)
Hmm.
Yeah, I think it’s really key to actually, when you are processing something or anything that’s happening in the moment, just take the time to really soak it in, just sit there with it. And that way you get to recognize the truth of it in different ways.
So how did starting a business with no idea teach you lessons about fear and success that perhaps traditional paths would not?
Alicia (24:05)
⁓ I just laugh because like, it’s, one of those things like after, know, the head injury and the divorce and that sort of thing is I really just started doing everything by intuition. And trust me, that was a year’s a process and a very rough road. So like when I tell people it’s messy and it’s a process for all of us, it’s very true just cause I’m sitting on this side of the, you know, the, the session doesn’t mean that I haven’t lived it. And, ⁓ you know,
CeeJay Barnaby (24:33)
think it’s important
that you are actually helping people to have lived it yourself too. yeah.
Alicia (24:38)
It’s very, very true. And so
I got the message of like, you’re gonna start doing this to help people. And I was like, I’m gonna do what? But I had learned enough that it’s much easier if you just do what your guidance tells you to do. It goes much smoother. And every time I ask for something when I’m manifesting or I ask a question or I’m like, hey, let me know the information on this. I always add with ease and grace because I got tired of.
CeeJay Barnaby (24:54)
Yeah.
Alicia (25:05)
the, you know, getting whacked upside the head, literally sometimes of the messages. And so still to this day, I’m always like, with easy, loud and clear with ease and grace. ⁓ Right. was like, I know, I know myself, but like little, little grace here. ⁓ and so I got the message and I was like, okay. And then I taught myself how to build a website. And so I went and I did that and it’s a learning process every step of the way. And then.
CeeJay Barnaby (25:09)
Yeah.
Yeah, don’t drag me across the asphalt to make it happen.
Alicia (25:35)
⁓ So I launched the website. There’s a lot of work that goes into now being paid for your gifts, particularly like I’m a recovering people pleaser. I’m a recovering perfectionist. So really empowering and coming into what you came here to do and then offering it as service. That’s a lot of, there’s a lot of, you know, entrepreneurs that struggle with that part of the, then taking the money for it and their self value and their self worth. And
From that point on, just started, it was like, you’re gonna teach classes. One day tells me you’re gonna teach. So then I, and all the downloads come and I taught the classes. And then a few years ago, ⁓ I was doing this visibility challenge of becoming really public, because I’m a massive introvert. And so I was doing a 30 day visibility challenge and halfway through that, I came and I sat down on my computer one morning and I said out loud, I’m gonna start a blog. And I looked around, I was like, it’s just me and the cat. And so I was like, who? And I was like, do.
Which is not unusual. We talk all day long. You know what I mean? I’m like, that’s, but I was, but I actually said it out loud and I was like, do people even still write blogs? Like, is that such a nineties thing? So then I Googled, taught myself how to write a blog. And then a few months later was like, you’re going to start a podcast. And I’m like, I’m going to do what? And the hardest way possible, it was live streamed. It wasn’t prerecorded. wasn’t yet live streamed to Facebook, trying to figure out all the tech at the same time.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:34)
Yeah.
Alicia (27:00)
That’s when
people were still bombing in the Zooms and doing crazy stuff and the topics were downloaded every week and I would write them and then I would do the recording and the live stream and that went on for like a year and a half and then I was told to stop doing that so I stopped doing it. So I just follow what I’m told to do in the business part of it. I’ve had amazing people. ⁓ You know, I’ve had to learn marketing. I’m still learning marketing every day.
And there are amazing teachers out there. Angela Johnson is one of my marketing mentors and I’ve learned so much from her. so find the people also that can support you in the things that you may not know how to do.
CeeJay Barnaby (27:41)
Yeah, ⁓ I mean, you get your intuition ideas on how to actually progress in life. mean, how do they come to you like that? mean, obviously you’ve got that weighted feeling of yes, no. ⁓ But how do your intuitions come to you? they like ideas with pictures and sounds or anyone talking to you anything like that?
Alicia (28:02)
⁓ It’s a lot of them. have ⁓ pretty much the only one that isn’t very strong for me is the smelling. And I think that’s the Claire Ollien’s. I did a series on this. You’d think I’d remember him. ⁓ Because it really is a mix. Sometimes I’ll get pictures. Sometimes I get, you know, I just get a download of information of like, you’re supposed to create this event. Like I have a…
CeeJay Barnaby (28:12)
Okay.
Alicia (28:31)
an event idea right now of like sort of teaching people about animal communication in a different way. And, ⁓ there are sometimes things that’ll come up in session. So there’s been this concept lately, the last couple of months of energetic caretaking, and it keeps coming up in sessions where clients were where we may not behaviorally be caretaking someone anymore, but energetically we’re still in their business. We’re still using our energy to rescue and do all of those kinds of things. And so
It literally sits on a sticky note to the right over here and I’m waiting. I was like, when it’s time to make a video or episode or write a blog or something about the rest of the information will come. And so my wall here that you can see is covered in ideas because also as a manifesting generator, we’re multi-passionate. We get a lot of ideas. And so sometimes I get a picture. Sometimes the voice will be like, Hey, you’re supposed to go do this today and you’re supposed to talk to that person. And I’ll be like, okay, I’ll go, I’ll go do that.
⁓ and I will tell people it is so much easier to hear other people’s, guides and information and downloads and, that sort of thing than sometimes your own. So if you are in your own psychic development, you’re like, I’m not hearing anything. I’m not feeling anything. We all have those moments. Don’t stress. You’re not doing it wrong. There are times I ask questions and it’s crickets and I get super mad. I’m like, I want to know. And they’re like, information will come when it’s time.
CeeJay Barnaby (29:58)
Yeah, that’s right.
Alicia (29:58)
I don’t have a lot of patience
for myself. I have patience for other people. ⁓ yeah. So it comes in all forms for me.
CeeJay Barnaby (30:07)
Yeah, I’ve had that be patient message many, many, many times and it gets a bit frustrating when you’re like, wow, I want everything to happen. So yeah, I’m ready now. Let’s make this life happen now.
Alicia (30:16)
Yes, you’re like, but I’m ready now.
What do mean I have to wait for the other chess
pieces on the board to move around? I can move all their pieces, just let me do it.
CeeJay Barnaby (30:26)
Exactly.
Can embracing our misfit qualities actually give us superpowers? Can you tell us more about why feeling weird just might be our greatest asset?
Alicia (30:41)
yes. And ⁓ it’s funny as you said that I was just in this moment, transported back to high school, which is interesting because you know, in high school, right? You want to be like everyone else. So much in society is, and it’s changing. Like that’s what’s really amazing ⁓ is that we’re coming into a time of being able to really celebrate our differences. There’s a lot going on in the U S right now that is challenging a lot of that. But overall,
CeeJay Barnaby (30:48)
Okay.
Alicia (31:10)
We can talk about psychic things now where 20 years ago it would be considered even more weird or something you didn’t talk about in public. it really, really is so much about, not so much about being different, but about being authentic. Like actually being ourselves of who we came here to be and not a clone of everyone else and not the fitting in. And by no means, like I understand I’m saying those words. It’s a process.
And because there is a lot that can come with when you’re different, a lot of people’s judgments, a lot of other people’s opinions. And that’s one of the great things that a guide or a mentor can really help you through ⁓ when those kinds of things come up. Particularly if your family, you know, if your nuclear family isn’t on board with some of your spiritual beliefs, that can be really, really challenging. And so to have someone, whether it’s friends, mentors support you through that is really, really important. And the truth is, like, yeah, it is our superpower.
Because when you learn how you function in this world, because everybody has intuition, but when you learn how you get your specifically, like what your Claire is, and now you go, I can tap into that. And that helps you make your decisions every day. That helps you in your relationships. That helps you in your life path. That helps you ⁓ decide what it is you want to create moving forward in your dreams. That’s a superpower. Because…
CeeJay Barnaby (32:37)
Mm.
Alicia (32:37)
The crazy part is, and not crazy, but like, for those of us that are innately awake to this, we don’t understand why someone wouldn’t choose that. Because your life can look so much different, it can be easier in certain ways. And the truth is there are people that don’t choose that. And so choosing it alone is a superpower. Making a choice and following through on it, in a world with a lot of people that don’t do that, that’s a superpower also.
CeeJay Barnaby (33:05)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s key to actually recognize what you can do and what you can’t do at the time, but it might not always be that way.
I grew up a bit of a black sheep myself in society and I really desperately wanted to fit in with all of the people that I knew in school and everything. But I think as you evolve over time and realize that it doesn’t matter, it can just be you. I think that’s one of the toughest things to actually get into that groove of. But once you’re in there, it’s like, oh, it doesn’t matter. And that’s why I started this podcast as well.
and help people to understand that it’s okay to be the unusual person, the black sheep, and get everyone’s word out there besides my own. yeah. Okay, so when someone feels stuck between their past trauma and their desire for a transformational growth, how do we start shifting our identity without losing ourselves along the way?
Alicia (34:08)
It’s really one of this, I mean, we all have those moments in life where we feel stuck, like it happens. And it’s one of those pivotal moments, like you’re saying, where it’s the shedding of the old version of ourselves and the new version coming in, we could be jumping timelines, we could be making quantum leaps. ⁓ And particularly right now, we’re jumping timelines so quickly in what is happening in the world right now. ⁓
And, and that’s one of things I’ve been helping people with lately. Like, I can’t keep up. I’m like, I know we’re everybody’s jumping timelines, like super fast. Cause usually you jump a timeline, you kind of get to settle in, get that version of yourself. And then there’ll be another one. But right now it’s just happening so fast that we’re not even getting able to settle into the timeline that we just jumped into. And it’s, so true. And so there’s the, the transformation process is happening so quickly right now. So when we get, when we have this feeling of stuck, it’s.
CeeJay Barnaby (34:54)
That’s right.
Alicia (35:05)
These old pieces of us that we hold onto that we think are comfortable, we think that it’s what actually creates our safety. And the truth is, is safety is an illusion. And trust me, I get it. I like feeling safe, who doesn’t? And it’s a human illusion. And so it’s that place of we have that, for me it’s a feeling, but this sense of there’s something else coming. There’s this desire in yourself to…
start to talk about something differently or start to behave in a different way, or you have these emotions of where you’re like, I’m starting to feel joy like I never had before, or I’m starting to not care what people think anymore. A lot of that happens to come with age, which is fabulous. And so there are some benefits to maturing. And it’s this place of really recognizing and acknowledging like, it’s okay.
because we have so many judgments of I’m not supposed to feel this way or it needs to be faster or slower, what’s wrong with me? And go, I’m just gonna sit right here and go, it’s okay to feel stuck. I’m not gonna be here forever because when we acknowledge something, then we can change it. If we keep going, I’m not gonna look over there and I’m gonna play ostrich and keep my head in the sand, it doesn’t shift. So we sit, we be present with it we go, I’m having all of this, I’m feeling stuck.
I can see that these old things are kind of falling away, but I’m also having some fear of what this new version looks like because it’s unknown. And it’s this new adventure. And when we allow ourself to be in that moment and be judgment free, that’s where the transformation starts to happen. Because that’s when the door opens and then you step through the door and into the room. As humans, we like to see all the steps, right? Like they’re like, I want to see the next five steps.
because then I’ll choose the first step. But the universe, God, source, whatever your language is goes, mm-mm. Cause we know step three is probably gonna be a little challenging. So they don’t show us, they’re like, we’ll give you step one. And then when you do step one, we’ll give you step two. Because if you see the whole thing, you’re gonna bail. Cause you’re be like, that might suck in the middle. And that’s why, you know, humans, we’re so adorable and we’re so cute and that we wanna see everything. And there’s a reason we don’t get to see everything.
CeeJay Barnaby (36:55)
Yeah.
You
Yeah, I think that’s part of the reason why they erase our memories on the way in too. It’s like, cause like you’re up there and you know, the eternal infinite light and you get the trouble brochure and you’re like, Oh, that’s a great life. Next minute you’re born. But if you actually read the whole brochure, you wouldn’t go.
Alicia (37:23)
because we wouldn’t do it.
Right?
It’s true. I make the joke all the time that I was drunk. was like, listen, I thought the water I was drinking was actually vodka. And before I got on the bus and I signed all these contracts, I was like, it’ll be fine. It’ll be okay. So yeah, I make the joke that I was drunk. I don’t drink a lot, you know, it’s this place of, for me, I always do my best to find the humor in the challenging situations.
CeeJay Barnaby (37:55)
Hehehehe. Hehehehe.
Hmm. So speaking of your ⁓ sense of humor, you actually stayed in some of the things I’ve read about you about your wicked sense of humor. ⁓ How has that served you during dark times? And can you share some behind the scenes stories?
Alicia (38:21)
There’s a lot of laughing at yourself where because people think, well, you have all these psychic gifts you should be able to and the truth is we don’t always get our own information. Like that’s why we don’t get the winning lottery tickets. We don’t get, because we are here to have the same human experience as everyone else. And when we learn to use some of it, it’s great, but it’s not a hall pass to be like, you get everything easy. And so there’s a lot of
laughing at myself. Like I said, I get in my own way all the time. I’ll be like, dang it. I did it again. I am standing literally like I knew and I did it anyway. And then you, you you play the, the tape back and you’re like, Oh, right there, right there. had that feeling. And I was like, Nope. I gave that person the benefit of the doubt for the ninth time, even though I know better. And I ended up here again. And so it’s sometimes when we have certain behavioral patterns or whatever we, it’s not that they go away forever.
CeeJay Barnaby (39:14)
Mmm.
Alicia (39:21)
but we catch them sooner and they don’t last as long. So I said, you know, I’m a recovering people pleaser and perfectionist. Those are still part of me. Those girls are in the back seat of the car and sometimes they make it to the front and they drive the car for a while and I have to grab them and shove them in the back seat. Now I get to love those parts of me, but I catch it sooner and they don’t drive the car as long, but I don’t have to get rid of them. There isn’t a part of this of where we’re cutting parts of ourselves off and saying they’re bad and you have to go away.
They’re just another brick in my lighthouse and I get to love them just as much. And so those are kind of the, how my sense of humor looks at it where it’s like, well, who’s driving the bus today? Wasn’t me clearly. And is there cleanup that I, what did I run over? I gotta go clean up the things now.
CeeJay Barnaby (40:11)
I love that story. the way you explained that, the idea of another brick in your lighthouse, that’s really, really good because yeah, that’s exactly the way it should be to recognize that all parts of ourselves are important and valid, you know, to making a whole self. Now, ⁓ we often get advice about finding yourself and what if instead we focus on creating ourselves anew, what would that mindset shift in?
Everything.
Alicia (40:43)
my goodness.
Because it’s so much about the remembering and the, like you said, creating the new version of ourselves. And for me, when we talk about the new version, what those words mean to me is the true version of us. Because it’s so much of, you know, we come into this world completely open, right? Like as babies, we’re like, we’re here, we’re fabulous, we signed all the things, it’s gonna be great. And we’re open and we’re open and we’re open. And love just pours out of us.
And then society and people and experiences, you know, put the boxes on, put the, well, nope, that’s not okay. Or, you know, the trauma happens and we then morph into something that wasn’t the true version of what we originally came into. And then most of the time we have this, we call it the awakening, right? Coming out of the matrix and you go, ⁓ and we start to remove those pieces.
and remember who we really were, what we came here to be, and then create that new version of ourselves, which is actually the true version. And then your world looks so different. Like you said, it’s so much about like, nobody, just be yourself. Nobody really cares. And the people that are having those massive opinions, they’re not your inner circle. They’re not people that you’re gonna turn to for support. They’re not your champions. So what they say, you get to choose whether or not it has an effect. Like we have those choices throughout our lives of,
We get to choose to be at the effect of something or we get to choose to be the one creating the change and being the catalyst in every moment. Now, it doesn’t mean like we all still have those moments where the effect of someone and we go, having for me unscheduled feelings, know, I’m having a very human day. And then I go, okay, how can I shift this? How is this a benefit to me? What’s right about this? I’m not getting. And so when we become that next version of ourselves, which never ends, we’re here for this human experience, however many years we’re here.
and this process is ongoing. I’m not the same person I was six months ago. And I may not even be, probably even three months ago. And I won’t be the same person three months from now. And it’s really, people get scared of that. And my invitation is like, don’t. It’s the best thing in the whole world is to be moving forward like this and be like, ⁓ who am I today? today? Today, this is easy for me. Two months ago, this would have been really, really hard.
And I was talking to someone a couple of weeks ago, she’s 26, and we were talking about some things and my birthday is this week. I’m gonna be 52, which just still seems crazy to me some days, because I don’t feel that chronological age. And I tell her, was like, no, I’ll just go do stuff by myself. And she’s like, I could never do that. And I was like, you know what? At 26, I probably couldn’t have either. I said, but today doesn’t phase me at all.
because I want my life to look different. I want to have different experience. So that means I’ve got to get out of my comfort zone. I’ve got to choose something different.
CeeJay Barnaby (43:42)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Powerful. Okay, so as someone who’s deeply connected both spiritually and scientifically, how do those worlds meet inside you? And what does that mean for folks skeptical about spirituality and craving results?
Alicia (43:59)
It’s funny, I was talking to someone who was very skeptical the other day and having this kind of conversation. And here’s the thing, a dose of skepticism is really, really important also. When you’re going into anything, my invitation is like, do not blindly accept anything anyone is telling you. Because there are people in every profession that are not always acting in integrity.
CeeJay Barnaby (44:21)
Yes, you have to have filters.
Alicia (44:29)
And so always, always listen to your own intuition. Please do not just blindly buy into what someone else is telling you. And I mean, that’s one of the things when I work with people, we’ll be talking to be like, how does this feel like what’s your own intuition? Cause I teach them to listen to their own intuition. And then if something they’re like, I don’t know, we’ll, we’ll walk it through and they’ll be like, this was something from the past and did the data. And was like, great, let’s look at that. And so when you happen to be super analytical,
One of the things that we get to learn is where is it acting as your superpower and where is it a trauma response or a maladaptive behavior of overthinking, right? Because if you had trauma, you get into that overthinking and the analyzing and you’re having those conversations in your head all of the time like I should have, or you’re prepping for one, like there’s maybe a little bit going on with a friend and so you have all the…
the preparatory arguments in your head, like why you’re in the shower, like if they say this, I’m going to say that. If they say this, I’m going to say that. And that can be exhausting because nine times out of 10, only one of those happens to occur. But if you’ve had trauma, like, the human in us likes to be prepared. And if you are someone like me who didn’t have a voice, didn’t use a voice for so very long in your life, when you have the language, it can change a lot of things.
but that can slip into the overthinking and having all those preparatory arguments in your head, which now you’re drained. And so when you have that science part, it’s very much tapping into where it’s a healthy dose of you’re analyzing the self-reflection, the self-awareness and not slipping into the overthinking and then using your intuition and bringing those together as the bridge of…
How am I seeing the world? Removing those filters, removing the judgments, and seeing the situation for what it truly is clearly.
CeeJay Barnaby (46:25)
⁓ So for people that are wanting to take the first steps in maybe contacting and being more in tune with their intuition, is there any ⁓ pro tips that you have?
Alicia (46:37)
Absolutely. ⁓ The first thing is learn how you get your information. And so, because if you’re clairaudient, your intuition is gonna look different than someone who’s clairvoyant. And so it’s very much learning how your information comes in. And from that point, the world is your oyster. And there’s lots of resources out there. Like I have a ebook, a free ebook on my website.
I’ve got videos on it that talks about like each one. Like if you’re clear audience, this is what it can look like. Here’s how you can do it. Here’s some tools. If you’re clairvoyant, if you’re claircognizant, because then you know, cause you’re already getting all the information. It’s already happening. You either just may not be aware of it or you don’t know that that’s what it is. And then when you read the things you go, my God, the music. Cause for clairaudience music is a, is a big thing for them. They’re like, that’s why I always hear things in song lyrics. It’s like, yeah, they’re trying to give you your messages. You’re not crazy.
That’s what was happening. And so we give the framework of what is already you’re already receiving. We give you the framework and now you can put those together and move forward.
CeeJay Barnaby (47:34)
Yeah.
So Alicia, we’ve come towards the end of the podcast. How can people find you and your works and maybe some of these free eBooks you’re talking about?
Alicia (47:51)
Absolutely. Well, first I want to say just absolutely thank you so much to you and for what you do and for having me on the show. And I hope it was a benefit to your listeners. And this has just been so amazing for me and I’m glad we were able to connect. ⁓ So you can go to my website, is whonewhealing.com and that’s new with a K as in who knew the science girl was also woo woo. I did not pick the name, the universe did. So whonewhealing.com.
And also, know, Insights with Alicia is a podcast I used to have. There’s tons of free resources out there, intuitive development, a lot of relationship stuff. And there’s a lot, think I have like five, five free things on my website. There’s a video you can watch about your, how your energy affects your relationship with your animal. There’s the Claire ebook. There’s a relationship checklist. I can’t think of what the other one is.
you know, the whole multi-passionate thing. We’re always making stuff and putting it out there. So my website, Who Knew Healing, is probably the most structured foundational place to be able to gather more information.
CeeJay Barnaby (49:02)
Excellent. Okay, Alicia, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing all your understanding, your intuition and your story. I really appreciate it.
Alicia (49:08)
Thank you so much.
CeeJay Barnaby (49:10)
I’ll just say goodbye to the listeners.
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