January 25, 2024

Ann Théato Interview Discover Your Psychic Birthright

Ann is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. She aims to empower them to confidently explore and develop their spiritual capabilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths.
Psychic Birthright Interview Ann Théato S3e52 Today on Supernormalized I have the pleasure of interviewing Ann Theato an internationally renowned Psychic Medium, Award-Winning Writer, Tutor, Voice Artist, and Host of the popular Psychic Matters podcast. With a focus on investigating psychic development, mediumship techniques, and paranormal science, Ann's show offers a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from experts across the globe. Having trained at some of the best psychic institutions and with esteemed tutors and modern-day paranormal pioneers, she is a respected Tutor at leading institutions and holds a Certificate from the Spiritualists National Union (CSNU). Ann is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. She aims to empower them to confidently explore and develop their spiritual capabilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths.
Psychic Birthright Interview Ann Théato S3e52 Today on Supernormalized I have the pleasure of interviewing Ann Theato an internationally renowned Psychic Medium, Award-Winning Writer, Tutor, Voice Artist, and Host of the popular Psychic Matters podcast. With a focus on investigating psychic development, mediumship techniques, and paranormal science, Ann's show offers a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from experts across the globe. Having trained at some of the best psychic institutions and with esteemed tutors and modern-day paranormal pioneers, she is a respected Tutor at leading institutions and holds a Certificate from the Spiritualists National Union (CSNU). Ann is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. She aims to empower them to confidently explore and develop their spiritual capabilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths.
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Psychic Birthright Interview Ann Théato S3e52 Today on Supernormalized I have the pleasure of interviewing Ann Theato an internationally renowned Psychic Medium, Award-Winning Writer, Tutor, Voice Artist, and Host of the popular Psychic Matters podcast. With a focus on investigating psychic development, mediumship techniques, and paranormal science, Ann's show offers a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from experts across the globe. Having trained at some of the best psychic institutions and with esteemed tutors and modern-day paranormal pioneers, she is a respected Tutor at leading institutions and holds a Certificate from the Spiritualists National Union (CSNU). Ann is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. She aims to empower them to confidently explore and develop their spiritual capabilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths.
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Today on Supernormalized I have the pleasure of interviewing Ann Theato an internationally renowned Psychic Medium, Award-Winning Writer, Tutor, Voice Artist, and Host of the popular Psychic Matters podcast. With a focus on investigating psychic development, mediumship techniques, and paranormal science, Ann’s show offers a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from experts across the globe. Having trained at some of the best psychic institutions and with esteemed tutors and modern-day paranormal pioneers, she is a respected Tutor at leading institutions and holds a Certificate from the Spiritualists National Union (CSNU).

Ann is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. She aims to empower them to confidently explore and develop their spiritual capabilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths.

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[00:00:00] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, that’s what I do. I just help people to understand that we’re all psychic. It’s not something that some people are born with and others aren’t. We’re all. We’ve all got intuition.

[00:00:58] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Welcome to Supernormalize, the podcast, where we challenge the conventional, break boundaries, and normalize the seemingly supernatural. Join me, CJ, as we explore less uncharted realms of existence and unravel the mysteries of life. Experience. My treasured listeners, if you have a life story or healing modality or unique knowledge that you’d love to share, reach out to me at supernormalized. That’s supernormalized with a Z at Proton me. Let’s together embrace acceptance of the supernatural and unusual as what it really is. Completely normal. Today on Supernormalized, I have the pleasure of interviewing Anne Tayato, an internationally renowned psychic medium, award winning writer, tutor, voice artist, and host of the popular Psychic Matters podcast. With a focus on investigating psychic development, mediumship techniques, and paranormal science. Anne’s show offers a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from experts across the globe. Having trained at some of the best psychic institutions and with esteemed tutors and modern day paranormal pioneers, she is a respected tutor at leading institutions and holds a certificate from the Spiritualist National Union, CSNU. Anne is dedicated to assisting individuals with psychic and mediumistic abilities who may be facing challenges in understanding and embracing their gifts. And she aims to empower them confidently to explore and develop their spiritual abilities, providing expert guidance and support along their unique paths. So today I’m interviewing Anne about the psychic birthright that we all have. Please enjoy the show.

Welcome to Supernormalized Anne Teato. Now, Anne, you’re a psychic development person. That’s like the simplest way of put it. But I’d actually say that you’re out to help people discover their psychic birthright. Is that correct?

[00:02:49] Ann Theato (Guest): Yes, that is correct, CJ. It’s great to be here. Thank you very much for having me on your show as well. Yeah, that’s what I do. I just help people to understand that we’re all psychic. It’s not something that some people are born with and others aren’t. We’ve all got intuition. That’s all psychic is. And I teach people how to use that to the best of their ability.

[00:03:12] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Excellent. Excellent. And so when did you discover for yourself that you were psychic, and how was that for you?

[00:03:20] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, well, as a child, I didn’t really think about it, to be fair, until I got to my teens. And then I realized I knew things that perhaps other people didn’t know. And I could see things that perhaps other people couldn’t see. So, an example. I would know what the football score would be. I would know which one of my brothers would score the next. I don’t even know if that’s the right phrase, but they were playing snooker, and I’d know which one would hit the ball in the little pocket, and I would know which ball would go into and I’d know which pocket it would go in. And I just kept it all to myself because I just thought, oh, that’s interesting. I just knew that then I started to know who I would meet on the way to school. So when I was walking to school, I would just have this precognition, oh, I’m going to meet so and so, and I would meet them on the way.

So that was the psychic that started to come around. And then the mediumship, which is when I started to see spirit people sort of came around about the same time. And I remember walking home from town. I was 16 and I had a very innocent little boyfriend on my arm. And we were just walking home from the shops, and I said to him, can you see the two ladies at the bus stop? They’re there every week. And he said, what two ladies? And I couldn’t believe that he couldn’t see what I was seeing. And I said, they’re as clear as day one, sitting with her shopping bag, and one is tall and skinny next to her. They’re just there right in front of us. No, couldn’t see them. And I realized as I got nearer to the bus stop that actually they weren’t there, but I could see them in my mind still as I walked past them. But he couldn’t see a thing. And that was the first time I really thought, wow. I thought everybody could see what I could see.

[00:05:21] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): How were your parents with this personal discovery? Did you share it to them?

[00:05:27] Ann Theato (Guest): I didn’t share much with my parents because I came from very strict Roman Catholic family, and also I had four brothers and the house was very noisy. And you didn’t really get a look in with parents. They were just stressed. They just get out of the way unless you’re laying the table or doing something useful. So sharing as we do share now, I share with my children. I spend a lot of time talking to them and spending time with them, listening to them and understanding them. That kind of wasn’t part of my generational upbringing, I suppose.

And I kind of knew better than to say anything to my mum because it would have just been dismissed. And I would have been told not to be. My mother’s Irish, so she would have said, don’t be an Aegis, for God’s sakes.

And I was always being told not to be an Aegis. And I would often go into a sort of semi trance. I still do. I just stare into space. And she would always be waving her hand in front of my face. Where have you gone? Where have you gone? Come back here, you. And I don’t know, it was just always part of who I was. And interestingly, my mother refused in later years to allow me to speak about it. She knew I read Tarot, she knew I was moving more into this work, she knew I was teaching, but she gave me strict instructions. I do not want to speak about it. Do not tell me anything about it, I don’t want to hear it. You’re just an Aegis, and stop it now. And she was 89 years old before she finally asked me who I was and what I did.

[00:07:13] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Wow.

[00:07:14] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah. Don’t give up hope, people. There’s hope.

[00:07:18] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): It might have been extremely disconcerting for her and her world to actually think that her daughter was doing all these things, because in the strict Catholic sort of upbringing for her, even, it might have been seen as what Christians shun as prophecy, which is seen as naughty stuff.

[00:07:38] Ann Theato (Guest): Yes, that’s right. And there’s a respect that we have for other people as well. You have to have an ethic as a psychic. You don’t go pushing into people’s faces if they don’t want to hear about it. You just quietly go about your business.

[00:07:49] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah, exactly.

So you were reading tarot cards from what age?

[00:07:56] Ann Theato (Guest): I got my first pack when I was 17 years old. I went into town and bought them from a shop. I didn’t particularly like them when I got them home. I hadn’t somehow chosen the best pack, I suppose. I think it was the tarot of the Golden dawn or something like that. And it wasn’t very picture esque and I found it a little difficult to read. However, I found them extremely accurate and I had to sleep with them outside my bedroom because I was frightened of them at the time. I realize now it’s just a piece of cardboard with a photograph on it and the power is within us. There’s no power in those cards. There’s nothing to do with the cards. You could read anything at all. You could read the back of your hand. And in fact, I have got my students to do that in my classes. You can just read anything psychically, you don’t need a tarot card to do it. But, yeah, I was 17 when I first got them, and then I swapped that pack with a friend who had a much nicer pack, and I’ve had that pack ever since, so that’s quite some years.

[00:09:07] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah. Right. So I agree with that idea that it depends on your openness as how things are presented to you. So divination can be in any form. So, yeah, that rings true for me as well, from my experience.

So you’re growing up, you’ve developed these abilities, and you’re starting to go out into the world with your understanding, which is quite wide ranging.

How did you actually develop into starting to teach and lecture around these understandings?

[00:09:41] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, that’s a really good question, actually. So I just sailed through with my packet of tarot cards, reading for friends and family, and I mostly read from the manual. You get the manual with your tarot cards and you sort of read that and you get to know so much about them. And then probably when I was in my very early 30s, things started to happen around me. After the birth of my. Well, I’ve got two children, so it began after the birth of my first child. I suddenly started to see spirit people very strongly all around. Spirit animals, spirit people. Now, I will sort of wonder what other people see when they tell me they’re seeing spirit people. But for me, I could see shadow people, what I would call shadow people, and I didn’t understand what they were at the time. Just shadows that you can catch out of the corner of your eye. Someone’s just walked past, and at first you think I’m going a bit bonkers, or that’s in the periphery of my glasses. Something’s just moved in the glass.

[00:10:57] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Something.

[00:10:57] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, that’s it. Until I started to see arms and legs and shadows that actually were still there when I started to focus on them. That’s when I started to get a little bit.

I was never scared scared, but I was a little bit concerned because I had a small child and I was like, what is this about? How come I can see this massive shadow man in my house and I can’t get past the shadow man? Because my son’s the other side of the shadow man. And it all sort of came to a head one day when I was having a bonfire at the end of the garden. I lived in London. I don’t know how I had a bonfire, but I did somehow have a bonfire one autumn, and my son was just a handful of yards away in his bedroom. He was asleep. And I had a friend at the bonfire, and she said, there’s this massive guy with a cloak on that’s just gone into the house. And I said, you can see him as well. That’s the guy that’s been hanging about in my house, this shadow man. So somebody else had seen it, too. And that made me think, great. It’s not me.

It’s a thing.

[00:12:10] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): It’s a thing. Yeah.

[00:12:11] Ann Theato (Guest): It’s a thing. Yeah. So then I got some tuition, and I started to go to classes, and I started.

Do you want me to tell you? Shall I tell you? Yeah.

Okay. So what happened waS, because it’s quite Interesting how it. All the Synchronicity of This, of how it happened, I saw the shadow MAn. So I Thought, Oh, My Goodness, I better GO ANd Get SOme Training. But I was a single parent with no money, and I couldn’t get away from my son, bless him, couldn’t get away from him. But I had no support. I had no family Support. I had NO friends of anybody in the NeighBorhood. So there was nothing. I was stuck. It wasn’t like now where you’ve got the Internet and stuff. So somehow I managed to get out one night to the pub. God Knows how I did it, but I did. I went to the pub, and I was with a friend, and some guy came up to me and said to me, hi. And I Thought, oh, here we go.

I said, hello, good Evening. He Said, I just want to tell you something. And I thought, right. He Said, you’re a Medium, and you need to go and get some Training now. What a weird Thing for Someone to come up and Say to you in a Pub. I Thought he was going to say, all right, babe, do you want to have a drink? And I thought, oh, God, I’m going to have to suffer this chat for Ages. And he was so Lovely and So Nice, and I was taken Aback. I said, how on Earth do you know that? He said, I’m a medium myself. I remember he said to me, I’m the 7th Son of A 7th Son, and you are a Medium, and you need to go and see somebody. He Said, the Person you need To Train with is a Man called Tony STockWell. Do you know who he is? I said, I’ve never heard of him. Who is he? He Said, look him up and go and train with him. And then he just left with his Friend. He didn’t even sort of Hang around or make Himself a Nuisance. He just left. And I Thought, My Goodness, it was Just so Weird. And it was so affirming to me at the time, because all this stuff was going on, and it was so strange that somebody had come and said that just when I needed them to say it to me. And I often look back at that and I think, did that person, was he an Earth angel or did he really exist?

Anyway, the Upshot of it was I looked at the College of PsyChic Studies. That’s where Tony Stockwell was teaching at the time, and doing one to one private readings. So I thought, I’ll book a private reading with him. If he tells me I’m a medium, then I’ll believe him, because he, at the time, had all these television programs I discovered afterwards, television programs had books out. And he is this famous, famous English medium. YEAH. So anyway, I couldn’t get an appointment with him because his waiting list was as long as massive. So there was an open day at the College of Psychic Studies. Bear with me, it’s a good story. There was an open day at the College of Psychic Studies. So I went along to the open day. A lady said to me, I’m just closing down the raffle now. You haven’t bought any raffle tickets. Do you want any? I SAID, nO, THANK YOU. Bearing in mind I didn’t have any money. So she went off, and she came back a few minutes later. Are you sure you don’t want a raffle ticket? And I felt so embarrassed, I said, okay, yes, of course I’ll have a raffle ticket. Thinking, God, my pound, I need that pound to put in the launderette down the road. Anyways, I gave her the pound, and I got my raffle ticket, and I saw people getting their raffle prizes. The prizes were called, and there were some amazing prizes at the College of Psychic Studies. There were about eight prizes had gone. One was left. My ticket came up. I GOT MY priZe. It was a private reading with Tony Stockwell.

[00:15:55] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): HOW PERfecT.

[00:15:57] Ann Theato (Guest): I SAW ToNY StocKWell. He told me I was a medium. Actually, I didn’t even ask him. I just thought, let me just see how this plays out. AND ThAt’S WhAt he said. And he actually said to me, I see you here at the college. And I said, well, I don’t know how. He said, well, I see you here. He said, I don’t know how that’s going to be, but I do definitely see you here in a teaching capacity. And I am now teaching at that College of Psychic Studies, and I’m also an assistant to Tony Stockwell.

[00:16:25] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Wow, what a big story arc.

[00:16:28] Ann Theato (Guest): I know, it was massive. Sorry, it was a very long story.

[00:16:31] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): But no, that’s great.

It rounds out an understanding of where you’ve been and how you’ve been and how you got there, which is, I think, important to people and helps people to ground into your understanding of the being of being and your way in the world. Now, your psychic ability that you use and your methods of teaching help people to find their own way into what I was talking about before, which is a psychic birthright.

Is there ways that people do this with you? What sort of courses do you do with that? I mean, I have no idea where to start by asking questions around that.

[00:17:13] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah.

When people come to my classes, I would recommend that people who are interested in this topic, say, for instance, obviously I’ve got classes on, but there’s loads of teachers out there. But for me, if somebody comes, I would recommend going to a development circle to start with. And a development circle is a weekly gathering of like minded people that will help you understand your psychic faculty, your innate intuition, and it will also help you develop your mediumship. It will help you understand who you are energetically, as a soul being incarnate on this earth. And it will help you know that actually, you’re not so much learning new things as remembering that which you’ve forgotten in your earth sleep.

[00:18:26] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Do you find that the people that are attracted to the courses have had a touch of the spiritual world already? Or is it people that have been encouraged to come along by others?

[00:18:37] Ann Theato (Guest): Everybody who seems to find their way to the classes have had some early experiences that, like me, the ones that I explained, that leave you feeling a little bit disconcerted. You’re not really sure what that is. You know, you’re getting certain information.

Like when I was walking to school and I knew things and I didn’t know how I knew it. So people have got these little kind of things that have gone on for them, and they’re just interested in exploring that. And the trouble is, the world is set up to be so derogatory about the psychic faculty. And science is now catching up, thank goodneSs, which is really great. And there’s now a platform, much more so now even than when I started, for people to discuss this topic and for people to actually look into the science of it. And that’s where I come from, really looking at the science of it and the evidence of it, rather than black cats and cauldrons and ooh, spooky, spooky. It’s not like that. It’s actually really helpful to use your sense of your psychic sense. If you’re networking, for instance, which is horrible and hateful. I hate networking. But if you have to, and you go to a meeting and there’s loads of people, and you think, oh, who do I go to first? If you’re using your psychic faculty, you can just look across the room and you can breathe and think, oh, I’m actually drawn in this direction. And that person over there is the person I need to speak to right at this moment. And you’ll be right. You’ll be absolutely right. You can shortcut things very quickly.

Yeah, I mean, the psychic faculty, the sense of ambience in a space is really important as well. To pick up the energy. Everybody’s got it.

You must know yourself. If you walk into a room and there’s been people in there laughing, you walk into this space and it feels joyful and uplifted and amazing. Whereas if you walk into a space where two people have literally just ripped each other’s throats out, and you walk into that space, you can feel that tension in the air, and that’s just the ambience, that’s the feeling. That’s all of your sight, sound, feeling, senses on the alert.

And you’re picking that up because those two emotions are so extreme. It’s easy to pick up the extreme, the argument, it’s easy to pick up the extreme joy. But what you do as a psychic is you fine tune and fine tune. So you’re picking up finer and finer and finer feeling and knowing about the ambience of a space or a place or a person or a thing.

[00:21:29] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): It reads like it’s an exercise or a fine tuning of muscle of sorts, that once it’s been pushed and stretched in other directions and other dimensions, maybe becomes more fine tuned.

[00:21:46] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, that’s absolutely right. And the more that you do it, the more that you use that faculty.

You’re right. The stronger it becomes and almost the subtler it becomes. It becomes so subtle, it’s barely there.

Yeah, I find it absolutely fascinating and exciting. It’s my passion.

[00:22:15] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): So we’re talking about psychic impressions at the moment, but I was going to ask you around mediumship. Can people that have never seen a spirit or had a contact with any ghosts or entities also become mediums? Is that something that’s possible?

[00:22:32] Ann Theato (Guest): I think yes. The answer to that is yes.

I cannot comprehend, if we are all soul beings, why we wouldn’t be able to speak to another soul being, whether that being is incarnate here on the planet Earth or discarnate in another realm we can all speak the language of the soul, so therefore, we are all mediumistic to a certain extent, but it will depend on innate ability.

I mean, you’ve got people like, have you heard of Tyler Henry, the Hollywood medium? He’s on Netflix. He’s absolutely incredible. Young, young man with the most immense talent. Yeah, he’s got this kind of innate, inborn, ready made, amazing ability. And some people are born like that. Some people are born fabulous runners. Other people have to really train to be a fabulous runner. Or we can train ourselves, of course, to be better and better and better. And that goes for mediumship as well. Yes. So anybody can do it, but everybody has got their own innate talent as well. So not everyone’s going to reach the same standard. But to be fair, CJ, if you apply yourself and you focus and you dedicate yourself to a task, you can’t help but become very good at that which you focus on.

[00:24:13] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah, I think you’ve made the point there before about how really we’re just revealing an innate ability we all have anyway. And I firmly believe that myself, that we’re actually born almost infinitely with infinite abilities when we arrive here. And those abilities get shut down over time according to social constraints and cultural constraints and, yeah, maybe even just us wanting to fit in. So it’s good that these things are actually being more revealed yet again over time for us. And I’m certain there’s a lot of people out there that would really appreciate finding that for themselves as well.

I’ve got to ask you, though, what is sitting in that power? What does sitting in the power mean to you?

[00:25:03] Ann Theato (Guest): Good question.

There are sitting in the power.

When you work as a medium, you’re using your energy to connect with the energy of those in the spirit world. And in order to do that, you have to attune to their vibration.

So you have to get to know your own energy, your own power. That is what powers your mediumship.

Sitting in the power means sitting in the essence, sitting with the essence of your own soul self, sitting with the power of your own energy, so that you can get to know yourself, get to know who you are, what it feels like outside of the human being. It’s about putting the conscious mind totally to one side and being very, very present in the power of who you truly are. If you can do that, and then you turn your awareness to the spirit world, the spirit world are doing the same.

They’re lowering their vibration to meet and attune with ours. And thus, when you’ve got this beautiful alignment of energies, then communication can very easily and clearly take place when you’re both attuned, like turning in a radio dial. If you’re slightly off that radio, the old fashioned radio dial, you’re not going to quite hear the words, are you? And if you think of the spirit world like a broadcasting radio station, it’s there all the time, but we don’t hear it unless we turn it on. If you turn it on and tune in, it’s there all the time.

[00:26:56] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): It’s a frequency thing.

[00:26:58] Ann Theato (Guest): That’s right, yeah.

[00:27:00] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Nice. So sitting in the power is actually opening yourself to that frequency that enables contact.

[00:27:08] Ann Theato (Guest): That’s right. And when you sit in the power and we do what we call work in the power, so you’re there, you’re attuned to your spirit person and you’re working in the power. If you suddenly drop the power and go into your conscious mind and think, oh, goodness, I wonder why I said that? Or that doesn’t make sense, or you’re using your brain, your conscious mind, you’ve dropped out of the power completely. And now you’ve got this kind of like a car kangarooing up the road on a cold winter’s morning. You’re stopping and starting and stopping and starting. Instead of being in the power, working in the power, staying there, keeping that spirit communicator very, very close to you.

[00:27:48] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): I’ve myself had a way of sitting in the power through a form of meditation that I do. And one of the times I was doing it, I was sitting and I decided this time I was going to meditate in a chair. And I sat down and got into a sort of open sort of space. And as I sunk down into it, this voice popped in and it was actually like an English woman’s voice. And she said directly and clearly to me, she said, where are the people from the other side of the room? And then she just left. And I thought, well, that’s very interesting.

[00:28:21] Ann Theato (Guest): Oh, how beautiful.

[00:28:23] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah. So sometimes I get messages like that and I’ve had other ones as well. But it’s fun to actually have connections with the spirits when they’re good guys, at least. But, yeah, for sure.

[00:28:36] Ann Theato (Guest): Beautiful.

[00:28:37] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): So what is a demonstration of mediumship to you?

[00:28:43] Ann Theato (Guest): A demonstration of mediumship is a.

We call it standing on the platform. So you stand on a rostra in front of a congregation of people and you demonstrate mediumship. So you give an example of what mediumship is. Usually in a demonstration of mediumship, let’s say you might work for an hour, you give what we call seven minute links. So you link with a spirit communicator. That’s your link, and you might work with them for about seven minutes, and you work with your recipient, and you pass information from the spirit communicator to the recipient. We work for about seven minutes just so that we can get through quite a few people, and so as many people as possible can get a message in that time.

It’s about seven minutes. And, yeah, that’s what a demonstration is. You’re demonstrating mediumship to people. It’s a very small and brief time to connect with your loved ones. It’s perhaps demonstrating what you might receive if you had a one to one reading with a medium.

But it just demonstrates that life continues, and this physical life is not all there is, that we continue to exist and you can’t die for the life of you.

[00:30:11] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): That’s right. I personally have grasped the fact that we’re actually infinite from a very early age. So, yeah, I totally agree with that. And all the spirit contact I’ve had just nailed that even down even more to make it more obvious.

[00:30:27] Ann Theato (Guest): Say more about that. CJ, you said you’ve known that since a young age.

[00:30:32] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Okay? So from a young age, I found for myself that the world is spiritual. And what I mean by that is I did describe in an earlier podcast that I did, that I one day was at the age, I think four or five, because this is the, we were allowed to be a bit more free range. So I walked across the road into the forest, which is directly across from where we lived, was a dirt road, so not much traffic, it’s pretty quiet. So I think my mother was sitting on the balcony just watching me and went and sat in the forest. And for all the understanding that I had of the experience was I went in there and sat down with some spirits. And I think they were the good people and they taught me how to meditate. And for me, that was normal. And I didn’t know that was not normal, but I had no way of expressing that really clearly to my mother at the time. I just said, friends in the forest, and I’ve got friends in the forest. She’s like, yeah, you got friends in the forest.

And for me, that was normal.

[00:31:34] Ann Theato (Guest): Beautiful.

[00:31:35] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah, well, I would see spirits in the house, and to me that was normal too. None of them were really scary. They were all just around.

And then as I got a little older, I found when we moved to another house that had a creek through the yard, there was a lot more spirits around there. And some of them weren’t so friendly. They were a bit weird. But to me, that was all normal. And I always tried to explain that to my friends and it wasn’t really fully accepted, but for me, it was like, this is what really normal is. So I’m just going to keep quiet about it and try to be like a normal person. But I know deep down for myself that this connection is infinite and our lives are infinite. And to me, that’s what is what else could be.

[00:32:26] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah. Beautiful.

[00:32:30] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): So as a part of your work as well, you actually help people to discover the ability of scrying. Can you explain scrying for people that have no experience of it?

[00:32:41] Ann Theato (Guest): Yes, of course. Scrying is looking at an object with a point of focus, I suppose.

Say, for instance, I have a glass of water right here. I might have a sip because I’ve got a croaky voice. Do excuse me.

Yeah.

So if I was going to scry with this glass of water, I would stare into the surface of it and wait and pause. And even as I’m doing that, I can feel my psychic mind coming in, almost as if I step backwards, I go into a very slightly altered state, and I’m looking into that glass of water and I’m waiting for pictures to form. And those pictures will inform me of what is going on for my recipient or for myself.

And it takes a little time, it takes a lot of trust, but you have to just almost blur your eyes and allow shapes to begin to form in the glass. And you do literally have to blur your eyes and just wait and wait. And then what I would also do, after a while, once I begin to see the pictures, is move in as if I’m in the glass myself. And those pictures are all around me so that I can see them in three dimensions and work out their significance and what they are and offer that as my guidance or insight into what’s going on for my recipient.

[00:34:22] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Brilliant. That’s classic order divination, which is, I think, recorded all the way back to the Egyptians. And I would even say it goes way further back than that.

[00:34:33] Ann Theato (Guest): Say so. Yeah.

[00:34:35] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): And that also did turn into black mirror work over history as well, where people would sit in a darkened room and put a black mirror, which was usually concave, so they’d lay it flat on the table or put it in front of them and then put a candle behind them and then stare into the black mirror in a darkened room in complete silence until they started getting messages. And the messages, images, ideas, impressions, smells, feelings, everything. So, yeah, I can see how you work with scrying there. Do you ever do any other scrying work, like, say, with objects as well? Like somebody hands you an object and you feel into the vibration of that object and gain information that way?

[00:35:22] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah. So if you were going to scry an object, I’m actually holding a pencil now, picked it up off my table. I could look at that and I could stare into that the same way I’ve just stared into the glass and pick up information from shapes or feelings that I get with my spirit eyes. That which I see that is still scrying this object. If I was going to psychometrize this object, this would be where I read the energy of an object that’s given to you. And it contains a history of all the things that have happened within, around, and to that object in its lifetime. So say, for instance, if somebody else, not me, but somebody else picked up this pencil, they might be able to hold it and they might be able to pick up information. Such as, I see horses. I can see horses because I often sketch horses. It’s my thing. I’m passionate about horses. I’m not very good at drawing them, but I do sketch them.

So they might pick up something like that, or they might pick up psychic work, because that’s what I do. I sit on my desk all day doing my psychic one to one readings, or my classes or my courses, or I’m planning or I’m working. So they might pick up information like that from this pencil. They might pick up things that are going on for me at this particular time. So somebody might pick up the fact that I feel two children around this. I feel a hospital X ray. And that would be correct, because I’ve just written with this pencil the telephone number of an MRI place where my son is going to get an MRI tomorrow. So there’s things like that that you might be able to psychometrize of an object. And, of course, if that object has a history, a really beautiful, rich, interesting history, you can pick that up from an ancient object.

Things that have a very big energetic imprint, such as a murder weapon, would hold a lot of energy and a lot of stuff that would be easy to pick up for somebody to psychometrize. If you picked up a murder weapon of some sort, you could probably pick up a lot from that. The happenings around that.

Yeah. So that’s what psychometry is, psychometrizing as opposed to scrying.

[00:37:46] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah, right. I see. Okay. Do you teach that as a part of your courses as well?

[00:37:52] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, teach you how to psychometrize something. It’s so exciting when people start to get results, because people get instant results.

Once you start to work with this stuff, it’s like magic. It’s not magic, of course. It’s science.

It’s energy, and that’s what it’s all about. But it does feel magical, I suppose. And people get a lot out of it. Yeah, I do teach it.

[00:38:18] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Do you think that the embedded sort of stories that get presented to us when we are doing sort of psychometric works or scrying are maybe emotionally charged or story charged parts of the experience that the objects have been through?

[00:38:40] Ann Theato (Guest): Could you rephrase that question? I’m not sure I’m understanding it.

[00:38:44] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): So, for example, you talked about the knife, the murder weapon, for example, having a powerful attachment to it, actually, that would tell its story. Do you find that that’s how objects actually transmit their stories to you when you’re actually working with them? Are they always very charged events, or can they be even the most of ordinary things?

[00:39:13] Ann Theato (Guest): Very ordinary. The charged events are much, much easier to pick up on because it carries a lot of energy. So those sort of things are very easy. You can pick it up from just looking at a photograph. You don’t have to hold the object. I teach psychometry on my online courses, so nobody’s actually holding an object. They’re looking at a photograph of a person to psychometrize their personality, or they’re looking at a photograph of a building to psychometrize. What kind of building is this? Who lives there? Who enters this space, and why? And what does it feel like? What are the smells, what are the sounds in this building?

So the things that are very striking are easy to pick up.

If you’re looking at a building.

Say, for instance, I got with some of my students to look at. They didn’t know what the picture of this building was. I got them to look at a building, but it turns out it was a picture of Dickens. You know, Charles Dickens, the writer. It was a picture of his house that he used to live in, one of his houses that he lived in London, which is now the Dickens Museum.

So the students did get that there were writers and people like this going in and out of that house, but they actually found it very difficult to psychometrize. And the reason I gave it to them and the reason they found it difficult was because although they could pick up on the writer and those kind of the friends of Dickens that he had at the time, there’s so much footfall through that particular building now, with Joe public going in, that it has got a completely different energy. So it’s not possible to read or psychometrize it fully.

Certainly for students of the ability that I was working with at the time.

[00:41:08] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Like on magnetic tape, it actually gets overwritten over time with other impressions.

[00:41:13] Ann Theato (Guest): Yes, it does. Which is why if you go into an old castle or something like that, you shouldn’t stand on the main thoroughfare to try to pick up that which happened in the building. Stand in the corners. That’s where the energy is. That’s where the secrets are. That’s where the power is, that’s where the magic is. Places where people don’t normally go that will still hold information from the past that you can pick up.

[00:41:37] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Wow. Okay. That’s a great tip. I mean, I’ve been to a few castles in England. I didn’t think of that at the time, but, yeah, that would have been very cool.

I actually do, as a part of my work, working on buildings and doing things in buildings. And I find sometimes when I’m doing things, I get impressions of they were doing this, and I can see pictures, know what people were doing at the time, and I can understand how things happened when I look at things. And for me, that’s another method or another means of getting impressions of events through objects as well.

[00:42:21] Ann Theato (Guest): Yes, absolutely.

[00:42:24] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): So you also write books and teach people in other ways through your podcast. Can you talk about that?

[00:42:34] Ann Theato (Guest): How nice of you. Thank you very much. Yes, I have a podcast called Psychic Matters, and I do solo shows on there, just talking about various different aspects of psychic work. I might talk about remote viewing, or I might talk about mediumship or psychic faculties. I also interview experts across the globe to get their expert guidance and advice for people. When I first started out, as I’ve already said at the beginning of our interview, I didn’t have any money, and I wasn’t able to go to any classes, and I was desperate for some help and assistance, and there wasn’t any. So I started my podcast so that people like me who are still out there, don’t have money, can’t get out, can’t get away, have got something, they’ve got some kind of resource, or they got access to the best people, the best possible teachers in the world for free. And that’s what my podcast is about. So it’s pushing the boundaries of human consciousness to redefine the significance of living. That’s what psychic matters is all about. So do tune in everybody, if you like the sound of that.

[00:43:45] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Brilliant. Brilliant. And about your books.

[00:43:48] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah. Well, I wrote a kids book called Bertie the Beach Hut, which is based.

I wrote it for somebody else, actually. There’s a couple of ladies both called Jane, and they both had a beach hut company, and the idea is based on something that they gave me to write for them. So it was a television. A children’s TV series that I wrote, but I wrote the book to accompany the TV series. The TV series is not commissioned as yet, but we live in hopes.

Yeah. So there’s that. But there’s other books in the pipeline. I’m writing a book at the moment called the Year I Walked with God. And it’s ironic, because the day that I started it, I thought, I know what I’m going to do. I’m going to do. You can do these virtual challenges online. Yes. My virtual challenge was to walk from John O’Groats in England to land’s End. So it’s the length of Great Britain. And I thought, right, I’m going to do that. So I signed up for it and everything. And the very first day I came downstairs with my gear on to go walking. To walk with God and listen to God speaking to me, I fell down the stairs and broke my leg.

What? Yes.

[00:45:02] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): What is God trying to tell you there?

[00:45:04] Ann Theato (Guest): But it’s part of the book. Yeah. The year I walked with God, or didn’t actually walk with him. Yeah. So that’s quite interesting. That’s in the pipeline, shall we say. And there’s some kids books that I’m writing as well, so we just watch this space with that one.

[00:45:22] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Wow. Right. I just think it’s really od that you broke your leg on the way.

[00:45:25] Ann Theato (Guest): To walking with God.

[00:45:27] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Maybe you’re meant to stay still and walk with God.

[00:45:30] Ann Theato (Guest): I actually was. And it was funny because I had been saying to the Spirit world, please, I cannot cope with the pace of my life. Please slow it down. Slow it down. So they did.

[00:45:40] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Wow.

[00:45:41] Ann Theato (Guest): They did. But I wasn’t expecting them to do it that way. But luckily, it wasn’t such a bad break. It was two months off, lying on my bed, waiting for it to heal itself. And it did heal itself. No operation needed, so it’s fine.

[00:45:55] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): You did mention there just before that you actually do talk to people about remote viewing.

Is it possible that a lot of the psychic work that we all do and in contact with the spirit world is just another form of remote viewing?

[00:46:11] Ann Theato (Guest): Anything’s possible, isn’t it, CJ? Let’s face it, okay, my truth is. My truth. Your truth is your truth. And the listeners who are all listening to this, they’ve all got their own truth and their own way of looking at the world. And no matter which way you slice the pie, nobody actually knows the actual truth. And I don’t even know if there is a one truth. I think there’s possibly many ways of looking at the world.

Remote viewing. Yes, I suppose you could say it is all remote viewing.

My belief is you can use remote viewing with your mediumship, in that you can blend with your spirit communicator so closely that you can look through their eyes and out at their world and feel their physical body almost as if it’s your physical body. I know that I’ve worked with people in this way, so I know that you can tell whether they’ve had illnesses or whether they’ve got one leg missing or a finger missing, or I’ve looked through the eyes of a spirit communicator and remote viewed the scenes that I can see with them, and they’ve led me through a hospital.

I’ve already mentioned X rays, but this particular person did lead me into an X ray department, laid me down and showed me exactly what part of his body was being X rayed, and I was able to say that to the person. So you could remote view in that way with mediumship.

But I’m not sure that it’s.

No, my truth is very different. It’s not all remote viewing. No.

[00:48:02] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Or maybe a form of.

[00:48:05] Ann Theato (Guest): Yeah, well, yeah, I’d have to think about that one. That’s going to make me really think tonight. So I lie in bed. Interesting question, interesting concept.

[00:48:17] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Yeah, I think about things. So I was going to ask you because we’re actually getting close to the end of the podcast now. How can people find you?

[00:48:27] Ann Theato (Guest): Well, that’s very simple. It’s antiato.com, Anntheato.com, and that’s my website. And on there you will find the podcast. All the podcast episodes are on there, and they’ve all got their own artwork, and they’ve all got their own show notes. So you can go and see which episode is which and see which one tickles your fancy, as they say. I’ve also got my courses and events on there, so you can see the courses that I’ve got coming up. I do have a development circle coming up, so if anybody’s interested in learning how to use their psychic faculty and their mediumship, please do come along. Starting in January, and I’ve been running my development circle for three years. I’m having a very short break at the moment, but I start again in January, so I’m really looking forward to that. And I am teaching remote viewing next year as well, a mentorship program. So if somebody wants to come along and learn that. And I’m also doing a program called the Traveler, which is all about traveling with your conscious mind. So we’re looking at past life regression, future life progression, life between lives, astral travel, things like this. So really looking forward to teaching that as well. And I do a free for people that don’t have any money and would like to see a medium or see a medium work. I work every single Tuesday for free for 1 hour between UK time, seven to 08:00 p.m. I’m not sure how that translates to your time. CJ, where are we now? We’re 10:00 so it’s 3 hours ago. What time are you now?

[00:50:05] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): 08:00 a.m.. Now.

[00:50:07] Ann Theato (Guest): Oh, it will be very early in the morning. Yeah, but if anybody wanted to, they’re doing a night shift and they wanted to tune in, it’s seven to 08:00 p.m. And it’s a demonstration of mediumship. I do. I do half an hour and then I share the platform with another very well known medium. Very well known medium. That’s not correct.

With another very talented medium.

Brilliant. You’d be very welcome to do that. So antayarto.com is where?

[00:50:35] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Excellent. Excellent. Is there any question that you thought I should have asked today that you would like me to.

[00:50:45] Ann Theato (Guest): Questions I haven’t been asked?

No. But something as you were talking made me.

I was ready to answer in case you asked the question, which you didn’t. So I’ll just say what I was going to say. There’s a friend of mine who lives up the road from here, and they had a brother who wasn’t very well, and that brother lived in their house and he was depressed, let’s put it that way. And unfortunately, the gentleman passed away. The brother passed away through natural causes, and then they let out his studio flat to another person. And that person lived in that studio flat for a while, and then that person attempted to commit suicide and didn’t manage. They were saved, thankfully. And then they let the flat out to another person and that person also attempted to commit suicide. And these people contacted me to say, do you think there’s something in the house that’s causing this? Why is that happening?

And the answer is, my answer was fairly simple. And there’s nothing in the house. Worried. There’s nothing evil or sinister, but I feel that we energetically, if we’re looking for a house and we’re already depressed, and we find a place that’s got that energy I spoke about, it complements our own, even if it’s depression, we don’t really recognize it as such, but we feel comfortable in that space. So I imagine that’s why the first girl moved in. She was comfortable with that atmosphere within that room, within that studio, and then she had her own issues and they came to the fore. And then the next person to move in after that recognized all of this buildup of energy and so on and so forth. So I said to my friends, look, before you let the room out again, perfectly safe to do so, but do clear the energy from the space. Clear the room. You’re cleaning it from all the dirt and dust, you clean it from clutter, and then you clean the energy of a space. And I think for all of us, myself included, CJ, we should clear the energy of our spaces on a regular basis to clean out the old and let the new, fresh energy circulate. I think it’s really, really important.

[00:53:18] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Definitely important. We do clearings here at our house often. There’s lots of land spirits around. We live it on top of a mountain, so we honor them as well. We actually put out milk and honey for them every day because it makes them nicer, lovely.

[00:53:37] Ann Theato (Guest): That’s so nice. And is.

[00:53:39] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): It? Is.

It’s been very good talking to you, Anne, and I’ve appreciated all that you’ve shared here, and I’m sure that people will get in contact with you to either work with you or maybe attend your classes, even that would be really good. If I was local in the UK, I’d definitely come over, but that’s a bit too far for me to go.

[00:54:01] Ann Theato (Guest): You’re more than welcome.

[00:54:02] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Thank you so much for your time.

[00:54:04] Ann Theato (Guest): Oh, CJ, thank you. It’s been really great. I’m really honored to have been asked to be a guest and it’s been really beautiful talking to you. Thank you so much.

[00:54:12] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Thank you. All right, bye for now.

[00:54:14] Ann Theato (Guest): Bye bye.

[00:54:17] CeeJay Barnaby (Host): Thank you so much for listening today. This has been quite a treat, listening to Anne as well, and interviewing her on her understanding of psychic ability and the encouragement of others to step along the path. And if you’ve enjoyed the talk that we’ve had today, please get in contact with Anne and tell her how much you enjoyed it. I’m sure she’d appreciate that as well. And I’ll provide all of the links to her information in the show notes. So thank you so much for listening. And please, I look forward to you coming and listening again next weekend.

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