Have you ever wondered about life’s biggest questions: Where do we come from? Why are we here? Where are we going? In our latest episode of Supernormalized, CeeJay Barnaby sits down with the wonderfully insightful Hans Wilhelm, an author and illustrator who has dedicated his work to distilling profound spiritual concepts into beautifully simple truths. Drawing from the wisdom of spiritual teachers like Gabrielle, Byron Katie, and Edgar Cayce, Hans provides a clear roadmap for understanding complex ideas like reincarnation, karma, and the afterlife. If you’ve ever felt that spirituality was too complicated or that organized religion left you with more questions than answers, this conversation will feel like a breath of fresh air. Hans’s approach to explaining the soul’s journey and our purpose on Earth offers a comforting and logical perspective on the struggles and joys we all experience.
Hans shares his own fascinating spiritual awakening, which began with a simple formula in a movie theater—”one plus one equals one”—that sparked a lifelong quest for truth. This journey led him to the teachings of Edgar Cayce and the concept of reincarnation, which suddenly made the world make sense. But the most pivotal moment came years later, after his father, a non-believer, passed away. A total stranger, a medium, approached Hans with a stunningly specific message from his father on the other side: “Whatever he has told me about life after death is true.” This incredible validation from the afterlife not only brought him peace but also a new mission: to share his understanding with the world through his beautifully illustrated, short YouTube videos, ensuring others are more prepared for their own journey.
Throughout the conversation, Hans offers more than just fascinating stories; he provides practical wisdom for our daily lives. He discusses the true nature of grief, explaining it as a process that is often more about our own sense of loss than the journey of the departed soul. He also shares his three essential daily practices for staying aligned with the divine and bringing order to your life. Perhaps most importantly, Hans offers a gentle but firm warning about the dangers of actively seeking contact with the spirit world, urging us instead to connect directly with the divine source that resides within each of us. This episode is a masterclass in finding clarity, peace, and a deeper connection to the universe through ingenious simplicity.
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Chapters List
- 00:31 – Introducing Hans Wilhelm: Simplifying the Spiritual
- 02:00 – A Selfish Mission? Why Hans Creates His Videos
- 02:56 – The Movie Theater Epiphany: 1+1=1
- 04:05 – Discovering Reincarnation Through Edgar Cayce
- 05:33 – Why He Kept His Beliefs Private for So Long
- 06:00 – A Father’s Message from the Afterlife
- 11:37 – The Real Reason We Reincarnate: Clearing Karma
- 15:30 – The Ingenious Simplicity of Byron Katie
- 18:30 – How Spiritual Concepts Become Simple Drawings
- 22:18 – Three Powerful Everyday Spiritual Practices
- 29:27 – Is Believing in an Afterlife Unnatural Grieving?
- 35:38 – A Warning: The Dangers of Contacting Spirits
- 41:29 – A Viewer Story that Confirms the Other Side is Watching
- 42:59 – The Source of His Timeless Teachings: Gabriele
- 53:08 – Where to Start Your Journey with Hans’s Work
Transcript
CeeJay Barnaby (00:31)
Today on Super Normalize we have Hans Wilhelm. Hans is a student of the works of Gabrielle and has done work with Byron Katie and is influenced also by the works of Edgar Cayce in his understanding. And what Hans does is he takes spiritual concepts and distills them down into a simpler understanding for people that may be in a hurry or have never really understood these things before.
We talk about his process, how he came to that today and what his purpose is in this as well.
what his drives are. It’s a really good conversation. I love Hans’s work. I watched some of his videos last night. I subscribed to his channel. I’ll offer those links to his channel in the show notes here as well. ⁓ And really, it’s great work. Hans explains so beautifully and simply and has such a wonderful, calming, centered and loving voice. I appreciated all that we shared today. So I’m sure you’ll enjoy.
on with the show.
Welcome to super normalized Hans Wilhelm. Hans, I’ve got to ask you, is your service to others about to the, all about the idea of bringing people into a greater sense of consciousness and welcome to the show.
Hans Wilhelm (02:00)
Thank you, Sarah, for inviting me. That’s a big question.
I you what, I’m a pretty selfish person. I do the videos, which we may talk about later, largely for myself to understand the spiritual laws myself better. And when I do this, then I share it with others and those who find it helpful will hopefully be inspired and those who can’t work with it, that’s fine too. I don’t have a real mission to tell everybody about it. I share what I understand and what I love. And that, I think, let the people come to those who are ready for it. So my mission
CeeJay Barnaby (02:16)
Mmm.
Mm-hmm.
Hans Wilhelm (02:37)
I just put it out there, that’s all. And I hope for the best because I trust there’s a lot of, there’s a team on the other side and I don’t know who it is and what they do, but they have usually, have been very successful so far to put millions of people in contact with my videos and I appreciate that, yeah.
CeeJay Barnaby (02:52)
brilliant.
Yeah, yeah, your spirit team is doing great work as well. I love that. ⁓ Can you name a single moment or person that most changed the direction of your spiritual life when you were young?
Hans Wilhelm (02:56)
Yes, they are.
Well, the first thing which comes to my mind was in the movie house. This is in Germany, of course, you can hear from the language.
It was a very basic holiday vacation movie, nothing special. It was in Italy, I remember distinctly, and there was a professor, a mad professor, and we had this big blackboard behind him with lots of formula which nobody understands. And there in the corner on the right hand side, there was a tiny little formula which said one plus one equals one. And when I saw that, it just went through my system like nothing before.
And he says, that is true. This is right. It’s all one. It’s all unity. It all belongs together. There is no such thing as separation. Anyway, that was the first time. And from there on, I doubted very much the official religious teachings from the organized religions. I grew up in a Christian environment, not necessarily household. they didn’t answer the important question, where do I come from, why I’m here and where I’m going. They were mumbling about it. There were no clear answers.
CeeJay Barnaby (03:41)
Hmm
Hans Wilhelm (04:05)
was only much later when I was in my, I just 20 and I lived in Africa when I came into contact with the teachings of Edgar Cayce. And for the first time I heard about reincarnation and also that Christ taught reincarnation and that opened everything up for me because suddenly I could make sense of everything around me, why there were rich, powerful people and poor people and sick people and healthy people. Suddenly through the law of karma, the cause and effect, which Christ spoke about as well,
depressed, suddenly a lot of things make sense. And there it was just one spiritual path after the other. So that’s why we are here now. That’s the
CeeJay Barnaby (04:46)
I don’t
know about those teachings of Christ. I mean, I did go through a similar experience when I was younger with the disillusionment around Christianity. I actually grew up in a Christian family as well. And I found that the the priest couldn’t answer the questions that I was asking. And I was the bane of the Sunday school. So I was like, I don’t like it.
Hans Wilhelm (05:06)
⁓ No, they don’t. ⁓
They took out the teaching of reincarnation in the third century and until that time reincarnation was part of the Christian teaching and then they took it out and suddenly they couldn’t explain anything anymore.
CeeJay Barnaby (05:24)
How strange, they shouldn’t have done that. What held you back for so long from sharing your mystical experiences publicly?
Hans Wilhelm (05:33)
Well, I believe your personal beliefs are similar, like political beliefs, are very personal. And you don’t go around and… I don’t like anybody knocking at my door and telling me, are you over witness? I have to join them, whatever. I’m good for them, but I don’t like to be taught into any religious beliefs.
CeeJay Barnaby (05:40)
Mmm.
Hans Wilhelm (05:52)
And I always believed that is totally for myself. And I kept it to myself. I never really taught it to anybody. I spoke about it. It was only when my father died, just before he died, and he was not believing in life after death. And I told him that just in case he may be wrong, these are the 10 things which may happen if his consciousness survives and he will find himself still alive when he thinks he is dead. So he smiled and then a few days later he died and I totally forgot about it.
It was five years later when I went to a bookstore and a total stranger came up to me and says, I saw you entering the store and when you came in here, your father in spirit came to me, I’m a medium, and said to me, go to this man and tell him whatever he has told me about life after death is true. And I’m deeply, deeply grateful to him for telling me this. And then he said, I’m now working on the receding side of souls which have died and I see the utter confusion.
Souls are not even aware that they are dead. And they are so confused, they don’t know what to expect and it’s very difficult. Would I please write books about it and share what I know with others so that others are more prepared. And I gave it some thoughts and decided instead of books to make YouTube. I make very short YouTube. I am by profession an illustrator and a writer of children’s books. I’ve got many, many children’s books. So I do a little bit of illustrations and explaining it. So in my very short videos, which are only five to ten minutes long,
I
show things, for instance, like the law of karma, where I draw it. Somebody hitting someone there, and then this got stored in their body, in their soul, in the Akashic records, in the planets, from there it eventually returns as karma to the sender. When you see that visually in those videos, all these spiritual laws make total sense to me and to a lot of other people as well. And I keep in mind Albert Einstein’s quote. says, if you can’t explain it to a six-year-old, you probably haven’t understood it.
yourself. So I must be able to understand it for myself very clearly and I do this with the drawings and that’s why said earlier I share this what I find out with other people and if they like it that’s great and if not it’s also great.
CeeJay Barnaby (07:52)
Mmm.
That’s fantastic. I love that story. ⁓ The fact that your father crossed over a disbeliever and then because he’s gone back into his greater consciousness and understanding suddenly realizes on the other side that everything you said was right. And then came to tell you that through a medium. That is totally cool.
Hans Wilhelm (08:26)
Yes.
Yeah.
CeeJay Barnaby (08:32)
And I think that’s what happens to a lot of souls that are on this side, people may be deaf to your understanding, but it’s not that they can’t fully accept it, it’s just that they’re not that resonance yet.
Hans Wilhelm (08:48)
Well, they were never exposed to it. I mean, if you’re exposed to the idea of reincarnation and stuff like this, we grew up in a very limited kind of environment, most people, very limited.
CeeJay Barnaby (08:50)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, my father was very similar in that way. he, like I tried to expose him to Zen and understanding of ⁓ consciousness and how things work and because of my own experiences as well. And again, you know, I’ve got to say, this is really odd that you said that because I had a similar experience with a medium too. When I went and saw this medium, she, like, I didn’t know what the…
purpose of setting the medium was. My friend said, go see, you’re to have an experience you won’t explain. And said, okay. And I sat down with his medium and she says, there’s a guy here and he wants to talk to you. And then she just went into his character and said, you know what, son, all those things you were trying to tell me, they were right. And I was like, what? And I started crying and he said, no, no, he said, you were right. I’m so glad that you said those things to me because once I got on the other side, it all made sense. And I’m like,
Hans Wilhelm (09:46)
my god!
CeeJay Barnaby (09:53)
So.
Hans Wilhelm (09:53)
It’s
funny, the same story.
CeeJay Barnaby (09:57)
I know, I
know, but it’s the thing that when you said that I was like, what? This is exactly what happened to me. And yes, I love this. I love this. So for me, that’s more confirmation of that understanding and that there’s the spirit ascension. You know what I mean? When you get the other side, know, we may have this limited view that we have of life when we’re here, but that’s just because of the story we’ve been told to live this time. And…
Hans Wilhelm (10:01)
Yeah, I’m skilled. ⁓
Yeah
CeeJay Barnaby (10:23)
You know, if this is the travel, this is the experience we’re meant to have, that’s totally fine. It doesn’t matter. But when you get back to the other side, it’s like all of the blinkers are taken off. You’re like, okay. So that was just a small part of what I am. ⁓
Hans Wilhelm (10:40)
Yeah, but again I think they’re not for everybody. A lot of people go over as stupid and narrow on the other side and they don’t wake up for a long time on the other side. That’s where the problem is that people are so stuck in their beliefs.
CeeJay Barnaby (10:49)
⁓ okay. Well, I,
Hans Wilhelm (10:54)
that they are not able to see, unblinding, and that’s why they’re attracted, and they’re attracted to souls of similar limited beliefs and live on there for long time. not automatically by dying, we get a wider vision. Your father was, but because he was indirectly prepared by you. But many people are just stuck in the way they die, and they just sort of continue the same way on the other side, and it takes a long time, and teachings, before they change. That’s what I hear from my
CeeJay Barnaby (11:02)
Mm.
Yes.
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (11:24)
spiritual guidance and understanding.
CeeJay Barnaby (11:26)
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think that’s a part of the coming cycle then is when they’re stuck in their ways, they get sent back again, like they have the opportunity to try and work that out.
Hans Wilhelm (11:37)
That could be one reason, but I think it’s a minor reason for that. I think they usually have a chance to somehow get it. It takes time on the other side to adjust and find your teacher there to be able to explain it to you. But I think reincarnation has more powerful reasons, like usually it’s a clearing of karma, which is much heavier than a limited life view. So the souls are returning back to undo the karma which they may have created in this or previous lifetimes.
CeeJay Barnaby (11:40)
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (12:07)
And I think that’s for me and my beliefs the main reason for most people are here. Not everybody. There are a lot of other reasons why people incarnate. But for most of us, I think, it’s here to undo our karma, which either to experience it, expiate it, or through forgiveness. These are the only two ways how we can get rid of our karma.
And I think that’s the most reason. You see the people who are sick, who are struggling awfully on this planet everywhere. You just open the newspaper and it’s all struggle, struggle, pain and suffering. This is all karma coming back to souls for the most part. I don’t want to say for everyone because there are so many exceptions and so many other possibilities. most of the people, I think, are here to go through the… We have to remember, if we have incarnated many, many times,
CeeJay Barnaby (12:41)
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (12:55)
say thousand times, we have lived through horrendous times, middle ages. You couldn’t go from one village to another without being robbed or raped or whatever. It was a brutal life everywhere around the world for long time. And we most likely were part of those brutal people as well. We were not always the victim. We were often the victimizer. These are all energies. These are negative energies, which are all against the law of love. And eventually they have to be sort of dissipated in some form of
CeeJay Barnaby (13:13)
Mm. Yeah.
Hans Wilhelm (13:25)
way, either through forgiveness or experiencing and not coming back, not as punishment, but for us to understand this is not the way to be truly who I am, which is love.
So it’s a gentle form of learning, karma, as hard as it appears here on this planet Earth, with some people going through horrendous periods of times. But we also have most likely done horrendous stuff to other people in wars and etc. and in situations. So it’s not that unusual to think that maybe we too have been part of this and have experienced it and done this.
CeeJay Barnaby (14:02)
And to think that the people that say, for example, even a lot of today that are actually ⁓ pushing upon the world ⁓ really awful things to control everyone, for example, they those those same people are actually playing a role they’re meant to play to help you to wake up to your own karma in different ways as well. So everyone plays a role in the story of the unfolding of the understanding of the
biggest and deepest love there is, which is the connection to the source.
Hans Wilhelm (14:36)
Very true. But also what we forget, if we have got here in America at the moment a very difficult president, we mustn’t forget. There have been some wonderful ones. But we all have contributed. We can’t point the finger really at one person or one assistant because we, over generation of generation,
CeeJay Barnaby (14:44)
Bye, ola.
They’re all the same. They’re all sock puppets. But they’re still sock puppets.
Yes.
Hans Wilhelm (15:04)
have participated in the pollution of the planet, in doing negativity things. It’s all added up and they’re basically reaping the negativity which we all collectively have co-created. So we have co-created the situation which now these leaders exploit or use for their good will and maybe on the bigger picture for the release of the negative energy. I agree with you that is quite possible.
CeeJay Barnaby (15:30)
You also collaborated with Brian Katie as a part of your work. How did that shape your approach to presenting spiritual truth?
Hans Wilhelm (15:40)
she is amazing, she is amazing. Her simplicity of it. She doesn’t speak much about Zen and so on, and although she has written several books about this one, but her way of solving confusion problems with a few questions only are so powerful. And if you watch one, watch her videos, just only four questions to ask ourselves.
and we can suddenly find out that all what we have believed all the time was not true. And because all the suffering we have is because we have fallen, we have chosen a belief system which is not ours. And we fall into it and we think we have to feel that way, but it’s not true. Everything is just our own choice. And when we understand that there are alternatives and we can look at a situation totally different, maybe opposite even, and we see that this negative situation…
may be something positive as you mentioned earlier like the leaders are maybe here to release the whole world into a higher vibration then our whole inner emotional turmoil changes and I’ve seen wonders of what she did with these simple questions and on the YouTube and she’s a wonderful wonderful wonderful person and totally also
What impressed me so I’ve been in the workshops and so on and so afterwards and so on and she works all on her own and these for days after days from morning till evening and then we had lunch together and so on as calm as quiet I mean I would be pooped after one hour I would be exhausted because I come from my ego more she doesn’t come from ego when you don’t come from your ego you are not exhausted
CeeJay Barnaby (17:08)
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Hans Wilhelm (17:16)
And she showed me that and that’s what I find the most impressive thing that she really comes from a very different level than I would come and many other people.
CeeJay Barnaby (17:26)
Yeah, that Eaglest space definitely has a big charisma to it too. So you feel very warmly invited to engage with her and her energy. went to one of her workshops in Byron Bay long while ago now. And it was, it was amazing. It was just one day and, and, ⁓ everyone was touched just by her words. So simply as you said, and, ⁓ yeah, very, very, very good day. Now.
Hans Wilhelm (17:50)
then you know what
you’re talking about. Yeah, so you have the experience of, yeah.
CeeJay Barnaby (17:53)
yeah, was shockingly simple. That’s the thing that got me. Yeah.
Hans Wilhelm (17:57)
That’s the thing. And this
is also the teachings which I have here and Gabriele, through whom all this material comes from, she always says, God is ingenious simplicity. Only the churches and all the institutions make it complicated. But this direct way is very simple. Stick with it. And you’ve come from the Zen, which I think is also a very simple, straightforward path. And so, yeah, it is a simplicity which brings us back to the source. But I would tell you, you are going to ask a question. I interrupted you. Sorry.
CeeJay Barnaby (18:13)
Mm.
Mm.
Mmm.
Yeah, no, no, no. It’s totally fine to interrupt if we’ve got to get those words in there for sure. ⁓ So when you work with your images, you actually convert abstract spiritual lore into a single image or short scene. Is there any steps that you take to keep that faithful and simple?
Hans Wilhelm (18:30)
Ha ha ha ha!
No, it comes in when I read the text, it visually appears, because I illustrate books and when I read a text I see how I would illustrate it and the same is with the story. But sometimes I have to read a text also a few times, even in its simplicity, to really see how can I illustrate this one, how to make it very simple. No, I usually have these images in my head and not everything works out. I have to redo them and maybe approach the thing from a different angle. But eventually it is something
It gives me great relief when I suddenly draw these things and how simple it all works. It’s so simple. has nobody told me this when I was a kid? Because it is all so simple.
CeeJay Barnaby (19:23)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you said, it seems like there is a bit of a…
a desire to make things more complex. And I think that comes from that reasoning mind or the ego, like you say, the ego mind to ⁓ give itself some self-importance, right? So, and control, that’s it.
Hans Wilhelm (19:43)
And control. mean the churches do these things
to control the masses. That’s why you don’t give all the secrets away. You just sort of, come to me and I would say if you, and I would make sure you get to God, but I don’t tell you how to get there. You have to come through me, through my organization. So I think it’s a lot of that one. It’s control of people.
CeeJay Barnaby (20:02)
Yeah, totally, totally. Is there anything that you use to help you to do to decide what to leave out when a truth is way too big for a video that’s only three to five minutes is, is there things that you actually go all this is to be, I’ll have to cut that out.
Hans Wilhelm (20:17)
Yes, I do editing. Yes, of course. I’ve got much longer text and then I cut out things which are not necessary. I definitely do the editing of taking things out. Because a lot of it is also repetitive. As I said, the basic truth is simple. But I say that in different stories. Karma is related to reincarnation. It all is related and there is sort of crossover in many ways. But yes, I do editing.
things and to try to keep it short. It doesn’t work always. Some videos are 12 minutes longer, 12 minutes long and so on, but that’s what it is. If the person is interested, they will stay, if not also good.
CeeJay Barnaby (20:58)
Looking at your videos and how many people are watching them, they’re definitely staying. So all power to you, I think. Do you have any visual metaphors that you found that you created surprised you by resonating strongly with viewers?
Hans Wilhelm (21:04)
Yeah.
Well, I don’t know any metaphor that comes to my mind here, think. the one visual thing… Well, yes, there are some others. I I use it in my video. I use, for instance, the Christ light, which is in us. Being totally aware of it, becoming aware, like the God light, and then using that image in my meditation has been extremely helpful. So I basically envelop myself in the Christ light, which is in me. The whole Kingdom of God is not out there. Everything is in us.
So we have to learn to go within, to connect with divinity. And there I use that Christ light, that flame of Christ, and that does help me to keep out all the negative energies and to be more focused. And in this white light, I also find the purification, the cleansing of my body as well as my soul. And these are kind of visual images which I used in the meditation. Is this what you were asking?
CeeJay Barnaby (22:07)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so ⁓ do you have any like three short everyday practices that you recommend for people who want greater clarity about life and loss?
Hans Wilhelm (22:18)
Well, I really think you start off in the morning basically to align yourself with divinity. That’s what I do. I’m not saying anybody can do it differently. This is important for me. Be grateful for the morning and when you wake up be for the night. Be excited about the new day. What will come and be open, whatever will come and ask for guidance all the time. In many cases, I do also the same kind of a quick review at lunchtime. How was this morning?
Did I stay as much as possible on the path I choose, which is the spiritual path? And particularly in the evening, I always have a diary where I write down things which did not work out and what worked out, what I have to do next time. And that is very powerful. The other very powerful tool which I find helps me a lot to make a list of everything which I need to do tomorrow or next week or whatever.
not, ⁓ tomorrow I will go to the dentist and tomorrow I will go to clear up my taxes, etc. Write it down. Physically write down a blog that says all this stuff I have to do, still have to do in the future, whether tomorrow or next day, etc. That has been the most productive thing I’ve found in my life because I see this blog in the morning and I go through it and in no time I do check off everything what I have to do, in most cases. It doesn’t always work every day because there’s sometimes more on it.
But that is a very powerful tool because the first step on the spiritual path, as Gabriele teaches us, is order, is to bring order into our life. And that means also how we organize the day. And this is one of the important tools which has been extremely helpful to me to make a list of when I close the day, what is tomorrow to be done, to write it down. Not in my mind, because that goes away, it disappears. But writing it down,
Basically I commit myself and the next morning I see it and I will do this without even questioning because it has to be done. What else can I suggest? Of course the most important thing whenever I feel lack of connectivity with divinity always go into stillness and in prayer. And when you can, if you live in a way that you can pray loud, do that. I think it’s most important to hear our own prayer, to listen to what we say.
Because the prayers are the connections and very powerful. And in the prayer is also the word of surrender. Thy will be done, not mine, which takes care of my ego. Whenever it comes up that I surrender, it says, okay, I would like to have the green car, but if you give me the blue car, that’s fine too. You have surrender. So the surrender is, I think, an important point which I feel in my daily work.
CeeJay Barnaby (25:05)
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No good tips there. I appreciate that. I, for my
Hans Wilhelm (25:09)
I would love to know
what are your three most important trips?
CeeJay Barnaby (25:13)
My
three most important things. Okay. So one, one of the things I do absolutely every day when I first get up is I do prayers as well. So I, I will pray to, um, uh, angels and to spirit for the day. So it opens the right way and to the planets, which the rules of the day, cause I do it in a, it’s like a bit of a magical practice. And for me that sets the tone for the day. You know, I, I,
have connected to the energies of the day. So then things will actually run a lot smoother. And I find that works nearly 99.9 % of the time. So when I have a thing that’s a bit anomalous, more than likely, I’m just gonna laugh at it because it’s just, it’s an interesting surprise. Right? Now, another thing that I do as a part of my everyday too, is I will actually meditate. And ⁓ I do two types of meditation. Now, one is actually a sitting meditation.
Hans Wilhelm (25:59)
Good. Yeah.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:11)
where I actually consciously sit and just observe my thoughts and let them go till I hit that spot that’s in between thought. And I actually had an interview with a guy earlier this week and he actually made a really beautiful point about meditation too for people that have trouble with meditating. And he said, instead of worrying about all of your thoughts, just observe them.
And I said, that’s fantastic. said, and when you’re observing them, that’s meditation. said, okay, people need to hear that because it’s really important because most people worry about all the thoughts. You don’t have to worry about them. Just look at them. So that’s one of the practices of meditation I do. And another one that I do, ⁓ I call it a type of meditation called zoning. And what I do is I put on some solfeggio tones, which are tuned to different frequencies.
Hans Wilhelm (27:01)
Mm-hmm.
CeeJay Barnaby (27:01)
⁓ I usually pick a frequency that takes into a super deep state. ⁓ And I use the something that I’ve got from YouTube that I just love. it allows me to let go in a different sort of way. And when I do, it’s like a full day reset. And I usually do that after I do some other work. And so I have like two phases to the day. like the first half and the second half of the day. In between those, I have that reset point. And I do a zone where I put the music, I put music on.
It’s actually quite loud, but not too loud, but because it’s soft music anyway. And it takes me away into a zero point and it on average, it’s about 12 minutes and I’m like gone and back, but it feels like I’m just working up to a new day because it goes so deep. And then at the end of my day, one of my daily practices that I always do is offer gratitude and offer gratitude to my ancestors.
my angelic ancestors. And then I offer gratitude to all the planets and the spirits and their intelligences and the power that they bring to us. for example, the sun brings everything. ⁓ And I do those, those gratitudes. then I offer gratitude to my spirit team and then to my Thai spirit team, which are a ⁓ bunch of talisman beings that I work with. And then I offer gratitude.
⁓ to my body for being healthy and happy and rejecting all disease curses, demons, and, ⁓ all the things that affect me in negative ways. And that way I try to stop that loose farming on myself. So then I keep a nice clear day and nearly all of the time, everything runs quite smooth. And like I said before, is when I have the anomalies, I can often let it just wash over me like a, you know, water over a duck’s back.
Hans Wilhelm (28:46)
you.
CeeJay Barnaby (28:59)
and just observe it rather than be affected by it. sometimes it’s actually, well, actually most of the time I find it amusing. Like, I didn’t expect that. That’s hilarious.
Hans Wilhelm (29:04)
Wonder.
It’s wonderful, CJ, I appreciate it. I’m happy I asked you because meditation is the one I didn’t mention. Yes, I do meditate as well. Actually, I’ve got three or four meditating tapes on my videos which are going very deep as well. Thank you for mentioning it and reminding that. There are lot of tools we can use.
CeeJay Barnaby (29:27)
Yeah, well,
yeah, yeah, there’s so many tools we can use. I’m going to listen to your videos on meditation. I know that because you have such a calming voice, I think it’d be great to actually sit and listen to you and meditate. Now I’ve noticed that as a part of your work, grief appears often. And now what would you say to someone who is afraid that believing in an afterlife will stop them from grieving naturally?
Hans Wilhelm (29:53)
when they believing.
CeeJay Barnaby (29:56)
What
do you say to someone who is afraid of believing in an afterlife that it actually stops them from grieving naturally? I I think that’s an unnatural thing, I mean, personally, but some people, they’re actually afraid of dying and because of that, they don’t want to believe in an afterlife. So that actually makes their grief even deeper because they’re like, it’s forever end. know what I mean? Whereas for people like me, it’s like, well, I’m going to see them soon anyway. So it doesn’t matter.
Hans Wilhelm (30:27)
Well, the first thing comes to my mind, if I believe that the other person is no longer there, there’s no life under this, why am I grieving? Because he doesn’t experience anything anymore. So basically, he isn’t even aware that he should be sort of not existing anymore. But no, think grief is, of course, a very natural reaction when somebody dies and very quickly something new happens, particularly when it happens suddenly.
CeeJay Barnaby (30:27)
you
Hans Wilhelm (30:53)
Because we have to adjust it, but all grief is only about ourselves. It’s only about ourselves to adjust it, selfishness, because we don’t know what happens to the other person. or she is on the other side and is taken care by spiritual guides who will take care of them. And why grief? Grief is only, lost me, because very often we think we own the other person and nobody owns anybody. But we think we own it and somebody is taking from me and it shouldn’t be, so the grief is always ours.
for ourselves. And my great teacher, Dr. Kübler-Ross, always said that people who excessively grieve are people who believe they have not said, love you to the person who has died as long as he or she was alive. So the feeling you haven’t verbally ⁓ said it to the other person can create a tremendous form of grief because now you think it’s too late, which is not true, but that regret is very
CeeJay Barnaby (31:38)
Mm-hmm.
Hans Wilhelm (31:52)
very strong. That can create an excessive grief. Of course we can always speak to the soul. On the other side, although I personally, from the teaching I receive via Gabriele, is not to connect with the other person if possible. Only in rare cases for a loving thing, but not to attach ourselves to them. I would do that always via Christ. I would ask Christ, can you please, whatever message I have, I forgive this, I ask forgiveness to the others.
soul and he is an intermediate between the two souls and will make and will pass a message on so that nobody you mentioned earlier, ⁓ people can attach themselves to us and only because we know the person doesn’t mean he may necessarily be spiritually evolved and could maybe use this as a very important way for him to live through our energy and be in our presence. So I would not try to attach myself to the person who has died.
if I’ve got anything to share with them, would do that with the Christ energy. yeah, that’s basic grief. Grief is basically selfishness. It’s basically we cry about ourselves. But I understand we have to go with it because it is just a change in life. But on the other hand, here it happened with my mother when she died and also with my father. They both were sick for a while, my father and my mother for two years. And when she finally died, there was no grief in our family.
overjoyed for her release.
CeeJay Barnaby (33:26)
because she’d been through so much.
Hans Wilhelm (33:28)
or she had lung cancer and it was awful to see her kind of in that situation. So there was no grief in our immediate family. So we said to each other, let’s have a celebration instead of a funeral thing. And then all the aunts and uncles came, oh no, no, you can’t do this. You must have traditionally been crying and all that kind of stuff, which we did in the end. But no, there was no grief. And I think a lot of people who have, who the partner or the person is dying slowly, adjust to the fact already well in advance.
very often only when a sudden death comes, totally unexpected, then we fall out of the Magnolia tree and wake up and it is very painful.
CeeJay Barnaby (34:06)
There’s one thing that I got caught on with what you were saying there before is that a lot of people grieve because they actually didn’t say, love you to somebody during the time of life. So that would actually indicate for everyone out there that if they tell everyone that they love them and say so authentically, you’re less likely to have all of the drama of grieving.
Hans Wilhelm (34:29)
I you, made my first book, back-seller was called I Will Always Love You, which was inspired by Dr. Kubler-Ross. And basically the young boy whose dog is dying says to the dog, I love you every day. And then when the dog dies, he is not so upset, but everybody else in the family is devastated. It’s a very clear message. And when I made the book, it says, wait a minute, I never said that to my parents, because in Germany, we do not say these things. See, in America, we love everything. We love you, we love the ice cream.
weather and everything. It’s easy in America to say, but in Germany we never say that within a family. It’s assumed, it’s understood, but never verbalized. I wrote a letter at the time before the internet and wrote down it’s sort of, yeah, and very difficult to put it somewhere in that I love them, you know. It wasn’t easy. And I sent it off and two weeks later I get a reply and say, thank you so much for your interesting letter, although we didn’t quite know what you were after.
CeeJay Barnaby (34:59)
Mmm.
Hans Wilhelm (35:28)
see, yeah,
CeeJay Barnaby (35:28)
I thought it was transactional.
Hans Wilhelm (35:31)
so fair game, but that was the funny thing. Yeah, so that was the idea, but at least I said it. So that was, made it easy.
CeeJay Barnaby (35:38)
⁓
How do you suggest people verify spiritual experiences without getting lost in wishful thinking? So I know that some of those spirits out there that are not all of them are happy and healthy and want to be friendly and do the right thing by you. So they can be tricky and start, you know, giving you strange ideas that you should follow. ⁓ So how do you suggest people verify their spiritual experiences just to make sure they’re not tricking themselves?
Hans Wilhelm (36:08)
I would say don’t, don’t, don’t do it. Don’t get involved with any spirits. Never mind even attempting that everybody is doing Grinnell-Pas life regression, that spirit medium, everybody wants to become a medium. It’s fine if it happens to you.
CeeJay Barnaby (36:22)
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (36:22)
But going out and doing it on purpose, ask yourself why. Is it to build up your ego? Is it do you want to tell us, I’m speaking to spirits. I’ve got a spirit with whom I connect and so on and who I talk. Find out really what is your real motivation because all the answers are within you. are ⁓ if you connect with Christ, which I believe is in each one of us, whether you’re Christian or not, it doesn’t matter, or with God directly. Why go to someone else when you can go direct to the Father, direct to
God. And the replies will come the same way, but this time the replies come from the highest field. I would not attach myself to anybody in the spiritual world. I’m aware of my spirit guide being here right now, and she helps me in my day-to-day life, but ⁓ I would not make it an issue to connect with him in the hope I can communicate verbally and hear everything they have to say. I would stay away from it for
for
the very reason you mentioned, you don’t know who is slipping in there, because they can pretend to be anybody. And you are then so bamboozled by it, says, my God, Christ is speaking to me, isn’t it wonderful? Does everybody hear? I am connecting with Christ. If you want to have a message from Christ, just come to me and I will give it to you. There is a lot of ego in here, and I would be very careful about that. But that would be my experience. If people feel very comfortable, I know there lot of wonderful mediums who
CeeJay Barnaby (37:29)
Yes.
Hans Wilhelm (37:52)
have actually usually stumbled on it. They didn’t search for it. ⁓
There are a lot of classes where people can learn it, but the people or the mediums I have come across did not went out and says I want to become a medium. They were going, and as you have said earlier, you made a medium. I wonder whether that medium decided one day, I want to become a medium or whether she was born with that gift and exploded. There’s a big difference because we have to find out why we want to do this. Because there is a lot of confusion in the spiritual world. They are not all smarter than we are.
I was very careful.
And I made videos on spirit possessions and it is very, it’s a real, real danger. lot of people are possessed in this world and are used for the Luz energy as you mentioned earlier. So I’m very careful about that. That’s why I put myself in the white light. do the same thing, I’m sure. can focus on this because we do know about these negative forces which are there. But that’s only me. If somebody else feels drawn to become a medium to save the world, that’s fine with them.
CeeJay Barnaby (38:45)
Mm.
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (39:03)
them
too, but I would just personally stay away with it. And I also would, the same way with astral traveling. There are people who have it automatically. I don’t know whether you know, Huygens, see this ⁓ work. He does a wonderful, he is a traveler, but he didn’t search for it. He had this wonderful book about, he created AI images about the spiritual realms. Fabulous.
CeeJay Barnaby (39:28)
you’re
right, ok.
Hans Wilhelm (39:30)
It’s a magnificent book and it’s a great idea on the different levels. He can go there. But he did it…
It came to him. He didn’t search out because there a lot of people also who go to the astral traveling and get hurt and get lost and get major kind of negative influences. So I would be careful. And the same with drugs. People use drugs now to get high image. They go to South America and have all these things. I don’t know whether you did this, CJ, but I would be careful because I’ve spoken to too many people, people who interviewed me. He also says, well, I had two great experiences. The third one was so bad, I 10 years.
years of therapy and still has afterlinks. So we don’t know what happens if we approach, if we force the other side too much into our life. We have enough to do in our day-to-day life from morning till evening. We don’t need the other world’s exploration. That’s how I feel.
CeeJay Barnaby (40:24)
Look, I completely agree with you in certain ways there. I had experiences with spirits ⁓ just naturally for a long time. And I also did not believe that possession could be real until I personally experienced possession. And it was awful. It took me months upon months to kick those spirits out. And ⁓ yeah, it was not good. So
I do warn people about that. You’ve got to realize that even if you don’t believe in a spirit world that surrounds us, they still exist. And they still have effect upon us.
Hans Wilhelm (41:06)
The best thing, the argument
the devil has, don’t believe in me. I mean, that’s the best.
CeeJay Barnaby (41:10)
Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. Now talking about your videos, is there any single viewer story that still moves you today and why?
Hans Wilhelm (41:22)
Any viewer story?
any viewer story or how it ended.
CeeJay Barnaby (41:24)
It’s because you put so many videos out. Have you got feedback on any viewer stories
that have really affected you?
Hans Wilhelm (41:29)
Oh, yeah, mean,
oh, there are some real fabulous ones. I mean, if you read the things, very touching and so on. this is usually go very quick because otherwise my ego gets too high. So I be very careful. But there’s a wonderful email I got a while ago from a woman in England. And she said when her father died, she was very close to her father. she communicated with him all the time. And whenever she wanted to do something, she had a close connection.
CeeJay Barnaby (41:44)
Hahaha.
Hans Wilhelm (41:59)
and she spoke to the spirit of her father and her father helped her and guided her. Until one day he said to her, why don’t you just go to the computer and go to YouTube? And then he spelled my name, Hans Willem, punch it in. She had never heard of me. And she thought it was an opera singer because her father loved opera. So she put on my name and immediately the the video on mourning and grieving comes up, which clearly states let go of the person because
he or she has to move on in the other world. Do not cling to them.” And she was just sort of over the top with this. This message is exactly what she needed. And this is how her father told her, let go of me, let go of me. We are both fine. You are fine. I’m fine. And that actually, that email is, I think, on my website, on the About page, because that basically confirms that the other side is watching me too.
CeeJay Barnaby (42:58)
We’re all being watched by those spirits. They keep an eye on us and keep us on the path. Yeah. You speak to millions across many cultures. How do you keep your teachings non-dogmatic while retaining clarity?
Hans Wilhelm (42:59)
⁓ Yeah, definitely.
Well, the teaching doesn’t come really from me. comes all material, which through Gabriele we haven’t mentioned. This is a woman in Germany who died last year for 50 years. She has given all these teachings and you see all these blue books in my background. These are just only some of them. And there’s a huge library in Germany called the Sophia Library where people can Google it and find it where all her material is stored and recorded. And her teachings is so phenomenal. I’ve done many other spiritual paths like you probably do,
never found anything as clear as in total understanding for me and as deep. mean, just Christ came through her and gave her, for instance, this big book here, The Great Cosmic Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth to His Apostles and Disciples Who Could Understand Them. This is a huge book with information we have never seen before. And it’s not difficult. As I said, it is ingeniously simple. And therefore, the material I’m drawing from
mostly is very direct, very straightforward, very profound, and it covers absolutely every aspect of life, from birth to death, from…
material world to different, to all the levels in the spiritual world. So everything is very clearly explained here. it is also this, work is not an organization you can join. You don’t have to pay anything to benefit from it, except the price of a book maybe. So there are no teachers in this organization because it’s only the material which should not be altered by teaching people which is available and ⁓ because Gabi’s
says, do not go to other people, God is in you, Christ is in you. You can speak directly to them and I have them. So have no other human being or spirit around with you, go directly to the source. And that is basically where I get my material from and I feel very comfortable with it because I’ve been working with it now for 45 years. And ⁓ compared to many other paths which I’ve done in the past, this material has made, helped me to make certain important
changes in my life of habits and ways of seeing things which really were very important for me because suddenly I saw everything from a very different perspective and it just all came together like a big jigsaw puzzle and if you see, I watch my own videos at times because I’m the one who has to learn. All these videos are for me to understand. I’m the one who learned from it. So sometimes I watch them say, even if I did them 10 years ago, said, see I wouldn’t change a word. And so that means that the
CeeJay Barnaby (45:54)
Yeah.
Hans Wilhelm (45:55)
basis there is still there. I’ve got only in all these 170 videos I’ve taken only two videos off because there was some sentence in it which I didn’t express right and to avoid confusion I took them off. But otherwise I still stand to what I did 15 years or 12 years, 10 years, 8 years ago because the material is timeless.
CeeJay Barnaby (45:58)
Mmm.
Makes complete sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so she influenced your writings and your videos a lot. Is that one of the only points that actually can like, that changed your mind dramatically or did you have other influences as well besides her and Byron Katie?
Hans Wilhelm (46:40)
Byron Katie is in, well, this is more for my own side, but spiritual human development.
Of course, I had as a writer of children books and so on, I had a whole world of other writers and so on with whom I worked and who inspired me in my work. But I’m coming always back, most of the books are basically on the very high ethical and moral kind of basis. yeah, Byron Katie, of course, I took great stuff from Edgar Cayce, Rudolf Steiner. I took even the Course in Miracles was very helpful in many ways. It didn’t make any changes in my life, but I
it helped me to understand certain things. Even the conversation with God had some truth in it. But they’re all part of it. But the best teacher for me is always life. What do I experience right today? I’ve got a situation, a difficulty with my neighbor and it really upsets me, etc. And working on this issue, on this belief which I have, that makes the change. And it helps to have all these other information in my background, in my brain.
But it’s the day-to-day life, the day-to-day challenges, to cope with them in a constructive way. That’s the thing which brings me forward. Does it answer your question? ⁓
CeeJay Barnaby (47:59)
Yeah, it does answer the question for sure. So,
integrate our understanding of your videos and process. Is there any common mistakes that well intentioned spiritual videos make that you’ve observed and how could they be avoided?
Hans Wilhelm (48:15)
But other people’s studio or video, so.
CeeJay Barnaby (48:17)
Yes,
because you might have looked at other people’s works and and thought, well, OK, well, they’re missing the point. So is there anything that you see that’s common?
Hans Wilhelm (48:25)
No.
There are lot of spiritual videos out there and everybody has their own viewpoint. I would say it doesn’t agree with my understanding, but whatever that person brings out in their video may be helpful for another person and it’s not up to me to judge that. So even if it’s maybe contrary to what I believe, it’s there for a reason. If somebody finds benefit from it, that’s okay too. I wouldn’t tell anybody they are wrong in my perspective.
We all see the world differently. Every human being has a different view perspective. And there may be people who resonate more to their material than to my material. So I believe what I share is right for me. And that’s all I stand up for. And if other people feel they correspond to this, that’s great. And if they don’t like it, that’s great too. I have zero interest to convince anybody or missionize anybody. That is the last
thing I want to do because I know if we ever do that we bind ourselves to these people and this can have karmic consequences. So I would never want to push somebody onto the spiritual belief that I have. I offer it. If you like it, it’s great. If not, it’s also great. The path is to freedom and I have to let free other people be free whatever they choose and say I hope they let me be free in whatever I choose.
CeeJay Barnaby (49:41)
Mmm.
Perfect. Is there anything that you still hope to say or show through your videos that you haven’t done so yet?
Hans Wilhelm (50:03)
Ha ha ha ha
Well, every day I read my material and then I thought, this would make a great video. There is plenty now. There is plenty. Now I’m working on what happens to children when they die, because we here in America have got a horrible situation with all the school shooting and so on. So it’s a continuous, people are, young children die, and of course the question what happens to them. So that’s my next video of explaining what happens to a child’s soul when it dies.
CeeJay Barnaby (50:10)
plenty.
Mm.
Hans Wilhelm (50:34)
something. I mean I haven’t got enough time to make all the videos which I could make but I don’t run out of ideas. No, not yet.
CeeJay Barnaby (50:43)
⁓ How would you like your body of work to be used by future generations?
Hans Wilhelm (50:50)
I don’t care about my body of work. If they find the books of Gabriele, which is the authentic material, the real material, that’s what’s important for me. you, anybody, you can enjoy my videos, it, but then take the next step if you wish to take any of the books, because at the end of many of my videos I mention a book from where I take this, and there are many of these books out there, short books, thick ones, which explains it in much greater detail. And that is basically my secret
wish that if you are interested, go right to the source, because this is source material, which means divine material as I see it. Don’t take me, I may be just only the bridge to it, that’s it. But I don’t want anybody following me as a guru or teacher, whatever, because again, it’s all binding. I’m merely showing something which is available, and if you want to know more about it, go directly to the source.
CeeJay Barnaby (51:47)
Mm.
Mm.
Have you ever been tempted by your ego to be seduced by celebrity because of your work?
Hans Wilhelm (51:56)
I have not had any…
My ego, I had my ego and flattered many times when I was writing the children books. I traveled around the world, I give talks in colleges and schools everywhere. So yes, I did my showmanship, if you want to see some my personally, that was very ego-flattering, but also very helpful because I know I’ve done some good as well, sharing how to create stories and write to many children and students all over the world. That was in a way ego-flattering, but it was also awfully exhausting. I was so happy when Sue
came up and I could do these things from my living room and I didn’t have to travel anymore. So I was delighted about that one because I’m up to here with traveling. But otherwise I have not been touched by extreme celebrity kind of, that’s not in for me I think. I’m quite happy where I’m right now.
CeeJay Barnaby (52:39)
Yes. Yes.
Now for video watches that haven’t seen your amazing works, which one would you recommend as for a first point of dipping their toe in to become fully engaged with your understanding?
Hans Wilhelm (53:08)
Well, I think the most explicit one is a bit longer. It’s called the Amazing Earth School.
which explains where we come from, why we are here, but there are also other videos. And I really think if they go onto the website and look at all the videos, either on my website, lifeexplained.com, or on the YouTube channel with my name, it’s also Life Explained, I think your soul will guide you to the exact subject which you need to know right now. And in that short video, which may be very specific about one little topic, you will see whether this vibrates to you or not. I think your soul will
you to it automatically if you see all the various topics. You may be overwhelmed by seeing suddenly over 250 videos there, but your soul will guide you exactly to the one which you need to see and trust your guidance and see it and see how it works and be open to that. So how I would do that, but otherwise if you have the time which is a bit longer it’s called the Amazing Earth School.
CeeJay Barnaby (54:08)
I haven’t subscribed to your channel. saw that one there last night, but we were watching late. So was like, well, we’re to watch that one tomorrow. that’s tonight. Hans, it’s been a pleasure talking to you. How can people, sorry. I know all that happens like that. Is there any question that I should have asked that I didn’t ask?
Hans Wilhelm (54:15)
Yeah.
Is it already over? ⁓ Is it already over? It was so fast. Thank you.
Now you did great. I’m so happy I asked you some question about what you do in the days. have to learn about it. have to do that more as well. Thank you.
CeeJay Barnaby (54:39)
Yeah, I find that
I usually guide everyone else’s questioning. So it’s really good to get some questions back. I like that too. So I thank you for that. Now people can find you on YouTube and what’s your website address?
Hans Wilhelm (54:47)
Yeah.
liveexplained.com
CeeJay Barnaby (54:57)
Nice and easy. I’ll put that in the show notes. And I thank you so much for bringing all of this wisdom to my listeners and watches on YouTube. And I appreciate all that you’ve shared here, Hans. Thank you so much.
Hans Wilhelm (55:09)
Thank you, I appreciate your invitation. great meeting you. Maybe we do it again sometime in the future.
CeeJay Barnaby (55:14)
Yeah,
for sure. I’d love that. We can go through some of your videos. I’d love that. That’d be cool. All right. I’ll just say goodbye to the listeners.
Hans Wilhelm (55:16)
And.
Thank you so much.
CeeJay Barnaby (55:26)
What a great episode with Hans. He is such a character and I’m gonna get onto his episode that he mentioned, which is the amazing earth school. We saw that there in the list last night. So we’re gonna definitely watch that tonight. And I wanna find his videos on meditation as well. And I might even encourage him to do some more guided meditations because of the way he speaks and his centeredness, it can bring a…
a resonance with that space that you need to fuel.
zero point. And I think that’s something that we all search for is that state of release and happiness. in I’m sure that he’s, he’s, he’s meditations would do that. So I’m going to encourage him. So if you’ve enjoyed today’s show, please like and subscribe if you’re on YouTube. And if you’re on a podcast app, five stars, say something nice. And if you think somebody else would enjoy hearing this too, please share it to them today.
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