Banya Lim brings three decades of acupuncture and oriental medicine expertise to the Supernormalized podcast, sharing her revolutionary Qi Mastery system that combines somatic practices, energy awareness, meditation, and meridian healing. As a multi-generational healer and energy coach, Banya demonstrates how ancient spiritual acupuncture techniques can address modern challenges in health, relationships, and business success.
Her personal transformation story reveals the power of mind-body-spirit integration. After suffering from severe gastrointestinal conditions, depression, and financial struggles, Banya healed herself using the very principles she now teaches. Her recovery from what doctors said would be lifelong conditions showcases the effectiveness of combining traditional Chinese medicine with energy work and somatic healing practices.
The Qi Mastery system addresses emotional blockages stored in specific body locations, what Banya calls “zip codes” within our energy system. Through acupuncture meridian work, Qigong movement, and guided meditation, clients learn to identify and release patterns that prevent them from achieving their goals. Her approach recognizes that physical symptoms and emotional reactions serve as gateways to deeper healing and personal transformation.
Banya’s method emphasizes the importance of listening to body wisdom and following intuitive guidance. She teaches that our bodies continuously communicate with us through energy signatures, and learning this language becomes essential for lasting change. Her five-element theory applications extend beyond treatment into daily life choices, from clothing colors to home organization, creating holistic healing environments.
Chapters
00:03: Meet Multi-Generational Healer Banya Lim
01:16: From Family Tradition to Spiritual Acupuncture
02:20: Ancient Enlightenment Through Energy Channels
03:46: Personal Healing Journey: Depression to Wellness
04:56: Mind-Body-Spirit Connection Breakthrough
07:15: Five Element Theory: Emotions Meet Organs
08:16: Client Stories: Fear and Back Pain Connection
10:26: Bodies Speak: Learning to Listen Again
11:32: Feng Shui Meets Meridian Healing
13:40: Color Therapy and Intuitive Guidance
15:24: Three Pillars of Qi Mastery System
17:48: Energy Zip Codes: Mapping Emotions in the Body
20:42: Meridians Transform Money and Love Patterns
24:19: Two-Minute Anger Release Practice
25:46: Language That Disrupts Natural Healing
27:00: Building Meditation Habits That Stick
28:28: Truth-Telling Creates Energetic Shifts
30:04: Releasing vs. Repressing: The Crucial Difference
31:46: Joy’s Role in Stabilizing Change
34:08: Meeting Resistance with Compassion
36:14: Surprising Success Stories and Outcomes
40:36: Being Before Having: The Key to Manifestation
Transcript
CeeJay Barnaby (00:03)
Today’s guest on the Super Nomalos is Banya Lim, a multi-generational healer and energy coach with three decades in acupuncture and oriental medicine. Banya’s Qi Mastery system brings together somatic practices, energy awareness, meditation, and the meridian system to help people clear what holds them back and align with what they want in life, in relationships, in health, and in business.
Banyan’s story is powerful. After losing her health and finances and sense of purpose, she healed a severe gastrointestinal condition on herself and depression in six months and rebuilt her life using the very principles that she now teaches. Today we talk about the practices that she teaches, how they all interrelate and how basically we live in a co-creation system that when you get hooked up on the wrong thing, it causes issues in the body. And then she talks about how to identify that.
and how to move those things on. So make sure you stay towards the end of the show to learn all of that information on with the show.
Welcome to Super Normalize, Banya Lim. Banya, I’m interested to hear your story about your evolution, the change that you’ve been through, the connection you have to your body and then to healing people’s bodies. I think this is gonna be a really good story.
We’ll click the show.
Banya (01:16)
Yeah,
thank you. Thank you for having me CJ. ⁓
CeeJay Barnaby (01:21)
Yeah. So
what first stirred your calling to become a spiritual acupuncturist and energy coach and how did that evolve into Qi Mastery system? mean, that’s quite a big thing to say that you’re a spiritual acupuncturist in the first place. So you must use your intuition a lot.
Banya (01:37)
Yes. I came from a ⁓ long line of healers within my family. My mom was an acupuncturist. She always talked about how important it is to bring back the ancient tradition of acupuncture. She always said that the spiritual aspect of acupuncture has been lost in modern art.
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treatment modern method. And traditionally, she always talked about how spiritual aspect was base of acupuncture. Actually, acupuncture was actually one of the methods to reach enlightenment. It’s as strange as it sounds. It was part of trying to open up our energy channels and our energy meridians within our body to reach
CeeJay Barnaby (02:13)
Mmm.
Banya (02:20)
have awareness and have awakening and she believed that that part has been lost in modern science modern tradition she also talked about you are not only treating the body the person is not just the body it’s mind body and spirit unless you
delve into all three parts all at the same time you’re not really truly doing the healing a lot of things my mom told me when I was young and also watching her practice I really got to understand understood by me while I started practicing as an acupuncturist when you’re hearing things like that as a kid a lot of things really
don’t make sense and also if you yourself haven’t really experienced things you don’t really get to understand that information doesn’t become yours when you experience i really believe that when you experience that that information becomes yours truly yours otherwise it is just staying as an as information so when i start practicing yes
CeeJay Barnaby (03:33)
⁓ Yeah, so it takes the mastery.
Yeah. did your mom teach you any techniques that helped you to develop your spiritual and intuitive side to be able to connect to that understanding as well?
Banya (03:46)
Well, she told me, ⁓ my gosh, she told me so much about body, life, the world, earth, the universe, everything. But I wanted to really bring back the spiritual aspect of how it used to practice back in thousands of years ago in Asia. And even to this point, I’m trying to bring back that
part of a spiritual aspect. So the two things happened. I became an acupuncture. practiced Oriental medicine acupuncture. So I started incorporating this part of emotion, energy, and everything else. And at the same time, right before I started practicing acupuncture, actually myself has been suffering from many different ailments. Main one was
CeeJay Barnaby (04:30)
Yeah.
Banya (04:31)
depression, the other was IBS and also lot of cholera, cholera, which is a gastrointestinal condition. and it was very serious, serious. And I went to the brink of getting surgeries, but so just really don’t, don’t do anything. You just do, you just manage it. I remember one of the physicians actually told me that you’re gonna, if you make it through this,
CeeJay Barnaby (04:39)
Mm.
Banya (04:56)
Even if you make it through this, you’re have to deal with this for the rest of your life.
I have to tell you this, I’m over 50 years old right now. I’m more healthy now than back in when I was 20 going through all these things. I really saw things so clearly how the connection between mind, body and spirit in my own experience. When I got to really experience that and when I got to really truly understand what that is,
healing started to take place in my body. So all the things that I was suffering back then, I don’t have any of that right now. So gastrointestinal issues with acupuncture is something that I can really, I can treat anybody with that condition. So that’s one part. The second part of my journey as an acupuncturist, I realized that there’s such an intricate connection between emotion and the body.
Acupuncture is based on two major theories, In and Yang theories and five element theories. In and Yang theories basically talking about there’s no such thing, there’s things in the universe that exist has to have a counterpart. One cannot exist without the other. It’s like darkness, light, up, down, female, male.
left side, right side, whatever they might be. Everything has to be in their counter balancing and also counter interacting one another. I don’t know if you’ve seen a symbol with a sign in the middle of the circle. That’s Inanna. Five element is water, metal, so on. The five elements. Everything can be applied to this. What I mean is there are five emotions.
five specific colors, five directions, five tastes, five everything. And each element has connection to organs and each organ has a connection to emotions. So when you have excessive emotion and if you go having specific emotion for long while, it will start affecting your organs in negative way.
For example, wood is one of the elements. Wood’s organ is liver and gallbladder. And liver and gallbladder’s emotion is anger. So when you have excessive anger issue, it will start damaging your liver and gallbladder. Interestingly, liver and gallbladder, I don’t know if you have ever seen acupuncture points with all the lines in the body.
CeeJay Barnaby (07:15)
Mm-hmm.
Banya (07:22)
Have you ever seen the doll?
CeeJay Barnaby (07:23)
Yeah I have,
yeah used to get treated by an acupuncturist.
Banya (07:25)
Yes, so liver and gallbladder meridians runs the side of the body. Those are the only two organs runs on the side. This is why when you have a lot of anger, you sometimes put your hands on the side because you’re unknowingly trying to protect the meridians.
CeeJay Barnaby (07:43)
Hmm.
Banya (07:43)
And how
can we treat, how can we heal liver and gallbladder that’s related to anger? Of course, if you can be able to work on it managing your anger, that will be the best. But there are many different ways to work on it and or heal it. You can work on it with the color, you can work on it with the direction, you can work on it with the taste, you can work on it by just going to very specific points or organ or meridians.
with the needles which you have to get a treatment from acupuncturist to open up the meridians.
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CeeJay Barnaby (08:16)
Hmm.
Banya (08:16)
So there is a direct correlation between emotion and organs and the body and energy and so on. So when I started practicing acupuncture 30 years ago, I started sharing this information with my clients. Because I feel like we were on the same boat. I don’t know anything much more than my clients. So I told them, I remember one specific example.
client came to me with the back pain and he actually went through all kinds of different treatments but no one can figure out what was wrong with him. All the images come out as normal but he had a legitimate pain on his back and it’s along the line of kidney and bladder. So I just mentioned that to him that there is a correlation between fear
and these specific meridians and then he when he stopped and then told me yeah when i had this pain when it started i had a fear i was under a lot of fear about losing my marriage my wife wanted to get divorced and i was very very scared so from then on i just share with the people
And also people are the ones that are giving me information and the connection between emotion and the body.
CeeJay Barnaby (09:32)
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I’ve had some treatments myself. I used to see an acupuncturist in Sydney when I used to live down there and I specifically sought out an acupuncturist because I thought that was the only way I could…
I can’t read Chinese and all I could read on the side of the building was acupuncturists. So I went to this acupuncturist and she was fantastic. And I saw her for like nearly five years and then she disappeared. And I was seeing another doctor and he said that she was a specialist in gynaecology acupuncture. But she knew how to treat me anyway, right? Because she could actually, you know, she could feel the rhythms in the pulse.
Banya (10:00)
Thank ⁓
Thank
Mm-hmm.
CeeJay Barnaby (10:07)
She could
identify the way things work intuitively and she worked on me fantastically. She cured everything for me. It’s like so fast and I was totally surprised but also not at the same time because it’s very old medicine.
what core truth about the body and energy sits at the heart of your work?
Banya (10:26)
that our bodies are continuously communicating with us. And we are continuously getting the cues, but we have learned to listen. We have learned to listen to our bodies way of communicating. So we just have to relearn how to listen and communicate with our bodies.
CeeJay Barnaby (10:47)
there any method to that?
Banya (10:49)
Yes, so I told you about five In-and-Yang theories and five element theories, right?
So it’s actually really about utilizing our intuition. And intuition is something that we haven’t really honored growing up. If we have any questions, no adults will stop and tell us, well, listen to your body. What is your inner gut is telling you?
We, no one really told us that. So we end up trusting things outside of us rather than what’s going on inside. So when we tap into our intuition, will continue to tell us what to eat, where to go, who to talk to, and so on.
CeeJay Barnaby (11:26)
Yeah.
Banya (11:32)
And when I say relearn, you know what? When you go to Google, look for five element charts based on acupuncture. There are a whole bunch of them that’s out there. When you see it, it applies to everything. So let’s say if you want to work on liver and gallbladder. Liver and gallbladder’s emotion is anger.
And if you look at the list of charts, applies to the color, direction, and so on. Liver and gallbladder wood’s direction is east. It’s a base of feng shui.
And one funny story, well not one funny story, this is something keep occurring. If someone has issue, if someone has condition that has to be addressed in the liver, their east side of the house is very messy.
So by just clearing that area, you can change and shift the energy.
CeeJay Barnaby (12:27)
Wow.
Wow, okay, that’s interesting.
Banya (12:32)
That’s the direction.
The color is green. When you wake up in the morning, when you just follow intuition, value your instinct, sometimes it’s guided to wear certain types of clothes. I’m sure you experienced that. I’m sure a lot of people experience it. You don’t know why, but you get drawn to this shirt that you normally don’t wear. You just want to wear it. It just feels right that day.
That’s your body’s wave saying this is the most harmonizing color for you to wear because color also creates different energy within the body. It’s like words and sound, everything like Dr. Imoto’s water crystal experiment. I don’t know if you heard of it.
CeeJay Barnaby (12:57)
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I know about him, I know. Yeah.
Banya (13:16)
but also color.
That’s the best base of a five element chart. And you can work on it with the taste and so on. And you can look at the list of the chart that I recommended for you to look at. You can do that with anything that applies to you.
CeeJay Barnaby (13:32)
Okay, so it’s more than just listening to the body. It’s also listening to what the universe is feeding back to you about what you need.
Banya (13:40)
Yeah, but our bodies talk to us in so many different ways. We get insights. We get drops of inspiration, wanting to wear a green color shirt. And it just feels good doing that. That’s your body’s way of communicating with you.
And when you clean up the east side of the house, you don’t know why. You just feel lighter. And also whatever the condition that you’re going through, just don’t know why it gets better. And that is about following the intuition of the body.
CeeJay Barnaby (14:05)
Mmm.
I had an issue with my other workplace where I was having lots of challenges and everything. I went to a Chinese, like a Feng Shui practitioner and she, we talked a little bit and she said, you need to do this and said, grab this item, this item, this item, this item, put them in these places in your house and watch what happens. And I put them all in the right places and that was it. It’s all I had to do. instantly everything stopped.
Banya (14:36)
I’m
CeeJay Barnaby (14:36)
It was like
short-circuiting the channel of all of the bizarre energy that was causing trouble at my
Banya (14:43)
Yes.
CeeJay Barnaby (14:44)
said you needed to balance your home space to make that work. And I was like, wow, okay, this is totally.
Banya (14:48)
Yes.
Yeah, if you know that you are more than just this physical body, there is energy. call in Asian culture, we call it Qi or Qi or Qi. That’s what’s directing and circulating within your body. Also, you are made out of Qi or energy. And also, you are more than your body. I think that’s beginning of everything that we are trying to be aware of.
CeeJay Barnaby (15:00)
Yes.
What are the primary pillars of the Qi mastery system and how do they work together?
Banya (15:24)
So three, utilizing your intuition and trusting your body. And also, whatever is happening in your life and in your body is the gateway to where you’re trying to go. Oftentimes, it could be pain. It could be tension. It could be ⁓ constriction within the body. It’s all a to answer that you are seeking.
First, developing your intuition. Second, honoring your body. Third, knowing that everything occurring in your body is the doorway to answer you’re looking for. Not just the physical issues, but whatever reaction that you have.
Let that be anxiety. Let that be tension. Let that be worries. Let that be certain things that you are thinking about, whatever that you’re giving a lot of energy to. Oftentimes, we do three things. either, especially that…
what we are feeling emotionally or physically, we’re trying to get rid of it or trying to suppress it.
and or we would judge it.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:31)
Mmm.
Banya (16:31)
When we do
any of these three or all three, we’re giving power to it.
And when we allow it.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:36)
So this really
does concentrate on, sorry, this really does concentrate on living in a co-creative sort of space.
Banya (16:39)
Bye.
Yes. Yes.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:43)
He was.
That’s where you go.
Banya (16:44)
Go ahead.
CeeJay Barnaby (16:45)
How do you assess someone’s energetic baseline from the start?
Banya (16:48)
How do you assess someone’s energy baseline?
CeeJay Barnaby (16:51)
Yeah, yeah.
Banya (16:53)
Well, there are many different ways to do this. Objectively, I check people’s pulse. But Chi Master System is actually more of mentor and coaching program. I do a lot, most of it online. Of course, I cannot check the pulse. So we start with whatever people are focusing on.
And it’s good to start with whatever they are consumed by. It could be worries or fears. And third is what they want. We can start from any of these three. And then…
Whatever you’re feeling, energetically whatever you’re feeling, there is a zip code within the body. So for example, one dominant feeling that you have is I’m not good enough. There is a location of this energy within the body.
and we’ve we’ve yeah yes
CeeJay Barnaby (17:45)
So is there a whole map that you have for that?
Banya (17:48)
And there is a way to work with this energy to get health, what you’re looking for, and achieve what you want.
Especially when there’s kind of discomfort that happens within us. It could be emotionally like, I’m not good enough. And it’s negative thoughts. And it’s keep going in your mind. Or you might have, OK, let’s say pain on your arm. It’s keep consuming your energy. It’s very hard for you to focus anything else, right? One or the other is, like I say, it’s the gateway to where you want to go.
So figure out first find that state that what is that you want. Okay, I want this pain to go away. That could be what you want. That could be your goal.
Emotionally it could be, I want to be confident or I want to be a CEO of my company. That could be a goal too. So what is getting in the way? We figure out the emotion, energy. Emotionally it could be, I am not good enough. Like I said, there’s a zip code. There’s a location within your body.
We tap into that energy and see where that came from. So there’s a way to figure out where this came from and work with it. And we can be able to unblock this. So there’s three ways to do this. You can come to me. I can do the acupuncture. But that’s not feasible. That’s not possible for people who live in Iceland. I have a client who lives in Iceland.
And he cannot come travel to come and see me every week. So we do Chi Mastery through online. Two, we can do this through body awareness, which I call Qigong movement. There are Qigong movement. I think we are talking about a lot of different things. CJ, you’re opening up for many different subjects for me to talk about. Maybe I’m going all over the place. have to help me bring back.
bring back to the center.
CeeJay Barnaby (19:39)
It’s all a part of it.
Banya (19:40)
Thank you. There are different ways to open up the meridians. You can do acupuncture. Second, you can do it through movement. This is where all the martial arts actually came from, trying to open up the meridian or acupressure points in the body. In ancient times, thousands of years ago, when they moved their arms in different ways, they realized, wait a minute, when I twist this arm this way, this long meridian is opening up.
When I twist arm this way, my large intestine meridian opens up. This is how Qigong, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, Karate, all actually stem from. So moving your body on a regular basis helps you to open up the meridians. And there are some specific exercises and movements which I have on my website. And the third is through visualization.
and guided meditation. And that is also part of Qi Mastery system that I guide people to tap into that energy and open up the blockages.
CeeJay Barnaby (20:42)
Okay, so what role do the Meridians play in transforming patterns tied to money, love and
Banya (20:50)
Hmm
Let’s go back to what questions that I talked about. So I started with the people what they want. That is the goal. Okay, I want to be a CEO. Let’s say I want to be a billionaire. Let’s say that that is the goal, right? That’s where you want to go. And this is where you’re at. And there is a gap there. Gap is caused by blockages.
Blockages sometimes ⁓ can be fears or doubts or certain repeated thought patterns.
Sometimes people know that pattern, sometimes people do not know, but this is what’s getting the way of getting get to where you want to go. And as I told you, if it’s a negative thoughts, negative feeling, negative emotion, there’s a location within the body.
and we work on that location, we work on that zip code and there’s a way to work on it and navigate this, work with this to get to where you want to go through Chi Mastery system, visualization and guided meditation.
And oftentimes, those blockages were there for long time. I found that most of them came from our childhood.
and it started very innocently trying to protect ourselves. And once we start having relationship with it, work with and having different relationship and communicating, then we can be able to unblock it and get to this point. So ideally, if you have a specific goal, the best way to work on it, and I tell them to come to see me. So we do all this.
CeeJay Barnaby (22:14)
Mm-hmm.
Banya (22:21)
all at the same time in Sedona, Arizona.
But there’s also way to do this through visualization and meditation and body awareness and somatic work.
When we start to tap into the body, can be aware of the energy within your body, especially if you have a dominant, okay, let’s say if you have a dominant emotion right now, whatever that might be. It could be, if it’s, if it’s a dominant heavy emotion, let’s say
Fear. Earlier I gave you example of I’m not good enough. There is a location within the body. And there is a way to work through this, work with this. eventually you will be able to see that even that, even the negative you want to get rid of all your life is trying to help you in some way.
CeeJay Barnaby (23:07)
So how do you adapt your system for different nervous systems profiles such as, say for example, high achievers versus trauma survivors?
Banya (23:17)
I always work with people’s desire.
If a high achievers, want to be a CEO of my own company, people who have sufferings from certain trauma, they are also inflicted with that thoughts and we work with that thoughts. And all those has energetical signature and location within the body.
and we tap into that energy spot, ⁓ energy location within the body, and we start having communication with that.
and all the spots, all the meridians, all the acupressure points trying to tell us something. And earlier I told you that liver, gallbladder, the emotion is anger. And then one side of the body. Kidney and bladder, the emotion is fear. Runs back of the body next to the spine. So this is why fear has a relationship to a lot of oftentimes relationship to back pain or low back pain.
So I always work with what people want.
CeeJay Barnaby (24:12)
Do you have a two minute practice that listeners could try today to shift any emotional overload that you could share?
Banya (24:19)
Yes, very quick one. Earlier I told you about movement, And Tai Chi and Qigong. This is one of the very simple basic Qigong movement for emotions. So, what organ is liver gallbladder and their emotion is anger. And its movement to open up or release this is this.
CeeJay Barnaby (24:40)
Yes.
Banya (24:40)
And you have to do it slowly. if you feel like I recommend everyone who’s watching to just try it. If it doesn’t work, call me. Let me know. If you feel like you have so much anger you don’t know what to do with and it’s just consuming you, just do this for a few minutes. Just breathe in deeply. Raise up your arm. Stretch your side. So stretch this side.
CeeJay Barnaby (24:48)
Mm.
Yeah.
Banya (25:04)
and do both sides because meridians are bilateral, runs both sides of the body. Basically opening the channel.
CeeJay Barnaby (25:10)
Yeah. Yeah, right.
So you’re stretching straight up and just sort of leaning over to stretch that side and then doing the other side as well. Okay. So that’s easy. I’ve just got to describe that for the people that are listening only too.
Banya (25:17)
Yes, and you can do this sitting down or standing up.
Yes, it’s a little gallbladder, emotion is anger.
CeeJay Barnaby (25:26)
Yeah, right. So that’s a good way to clear anger.
Banya (25:29)
Yeah, and also there are other emotions, but maybe we can talk about it other times.
CeeJay Barnaby (25:34)
Hmm.
So in this feedback system, which is our body and the healing method that you’re sharing, what language or self-talk can disrupt the body’s natural healing response?
Banya (25:46)
Anything that’s heavy, anything that’s not natural, anything that’s not natural, creates heaviness within the body. Do you know that neuroscience found out that energetic signature within the body that related to specific emotion only stays in the body for 90 seconds? As long as you don’t identify with it or judge it, it will pass through.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:04)
Right.
Banya (26:08)
But if you identify with it, judge it, it stays. usually, yes, usually humans are the only ones do that. Animals are very good at letting that pass through.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:09)
Wow.
get stuck in your frequencies.
Banya (26:22)
If you see any animals fighting the nature, they like trying to kill each other. After it’s done, they shake it away and they just peacefully move away from each other. Humans are the only ones who hold on to it. Stay in that energy and stay in the thought that ended up creating the energetic blockages within the body.
If you just let it be as an energy, energy signature, just without any judgement, it will just dissipate within 90 seconds.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:52)
Yeah, such a simple process if you just know.
Banya (26:55)
Yep.
CeeJay Barnaby (26:55)
Is there a simple habit that bridges meditation into real time choices at work or home?
Banya (27:00)
I think that since like I’ve been trying to guide people to do meditation for many decades and I’ve heard all different complaints like, my mind’s monkey mind, there’s no way I can do this, it’s not possible, there’s too many things to do. Not having enough time is, it’s not true.
We can have 15, 20 minutes out of the day. Out of 24 hours a day, you can definitely make that. But I can understand that it’s not easy. We definitely need some discipline in the beginning. And when you start feeling the energy, when you start noticing the changes in your body through your breath,
and you start noticing your thoughts and patterns and things like that. More than anything, when you start noticing the energy changes within your body, you will start actually having fun with it to the point that that’s all you wanna do. But until that point, we need a little bit of discipline.
CeeJay Barnaby (27:54)
Hmm.
Banya (28:00)
just devote 20 minutes or more a day for 21 days straight. I heard that 21 days is where any kind of habit can be formed. So if you can be consistent, you will start making some changes.
CeeJay Barnaby (28:01)
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what would happen to somebody at an energetic level when a person finally tells the truth to themselves?
Banya (28:28)
energetic level within the finally telling the truth to themselves Wow
Recently, I sound strange to people, but I got a message from my mom. My mom passed away a year ago. She said, be true to yourself. And that is the way to where you want to go. And I thought, I’ve been true to myself.
But there’s other layer, there’s a deeper layer. Being true to yourself is completely being authentic as who you are.
and when people are true to themselves
I think they start having awareness.
And ours say that awareness is beginning of everything. Awareness is beginning of healing. Awareness is beginning of everything you want to do. And when you become true to yourself, you start having awareness of your thoughts, your patterns, and what’s going on. And then after awareness, change comes.
We want other people to change. We want the world to change. We are hoping and waiting for other people to change or the to change because we think that if you change or the world change or the government change, my life will be so much better. But the truth is we have to change, right?
CeeJay Barnaby (29:39)
you
Banya (29:45)
And change starts with our awareness. But what starts awareness is that I think it’s being true to who you are. I hope that answers your questions.
CeeJay Barnaby (29:54)
It does, it does. Being true to who you are is the best path.
Banya (29:58)
Yeah.
CeeJay Barnaby (29:58)
What is the difference between releasing energy and repressing emotions?
Banya (30:04)
Earlier I said that humans are the only ones who hold on to the negative thoughts rather than let it be and let that pass through. mean even scientifically and energetically quantum physically has been proved that it will just pass by if you don’t hold on to it with thoughts. So when the energy thought is heavy it creates a denseness within the body.
I always say try not to do the… because when you’re in the patterns of negative thoughts, it’s very hard to get out of it. And I always say try not to do these four things. Don’t judge it. Don’t identify with it. Don’t suppress it. Don’t try to actively get rid of it. When you do any of this, you’re literally giving power to that thought.
and that thoughts creating the blockages and denseness within the body. But we do this, we identify with it, we judge it, we’re trying to suppress it because it doesn’t feel good. So we’re trying to suppress it and we’re trying to actively get rid of it.
when you catch yourself doing any of these four things and just let that go it’s like holding on to something and rope and just letting it
CeeJay Barnaby (31:15)
Hmm.
Banya (31:15)
And
thoughts are not you.
We identify ourselves with the thoughts. Thoughts are not you. Thoughts are just thoughts. It’s like the cloud passing by in the sky.
And when you don’t let yourself fall into this form, you’ll just pass through.
Makes sense?
CeeJay Barnaby (31:32)
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Just had a vision of like trying to grab a crowd cloud and how pointless that is.
So what role does joy play in stabilizing change so that it sticks?
Banya (31:46)
Hmm. It’s interesting. You know, in Western culture, it’s like we are chasing joy. I do that too. I totally get it. But based on five element theory, you will see joy is one of the emotion that you have to harmonize. So we believe that too much of that also create imbalance within the body. So the place where we want to get to is like
⁓ It’s like a Zen Buddhism. It’s like the pond without nothing thrown into it.
Quiet. No wave.
CeeJay Barnaby (32:19)
You’re true.
Banya (32:20)
Joy
is something that we can work with it, but too much of it can damage your heart and protecardium based on oriental medicine.
CeeJay Barnaby (32:29)
Yeah, wow. Okay.
Banya (32:30)
But this is a very important emotion, I believe, is that we can utilize to change our energy. It doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t have it, you just have to work with it. But when we are joyful,
truly joyful that’s the shift of energy from wherever energy to joy we can utilize it but the ultimate place where we want to get to is that the peace
But when you stay in joy, when you know how to work with it, that’s when the manifestation, that’s where the creation happens.
CeeJay Barnaby (32:56)
you
Banya (33:04)
but you cannot always be that it’s like a do and be you have to do both do and be we can get lost in do like I have to do this I have to do this I have to do this but when you in be which is joy you can utilize this too because be joyful brings creativity intuition inspiration
CeeJay Barnaby (33:12)
you
Banya (33:25)
but you cannot be doing all the time it’s like male and female energy this do is more of the masculine energy be is more of a feminine energy so you got to use both
but you cannot be always in this energy all the time. We both have testosterone and estrogen in the body. We have to just find a way to bring that in balance.
But joy is the gateway to inspiration and creation. But don’t get lost in there. Find a way to balance between doing and being.
CeeJay Barnaby (33:49)
Hmm.
Hmm.
When you’re working with people, what resistance shows up early and how do you meet it compassionately yet firmly?
Banya (34:08)
hmm everything I believe like I said have any kind of reaction any reaction is a gateway to where we want to go
So the I look at it is nothing’s obstacles. It’s just something that presented to us to open something.
open and something to look at.
CeeJay Barnaby (34:26)
Mmm.
Banya (34:26)
There’s no such thing as reaction. I’d notice a certain thing as obstacle as long as you don’t react.
Reaction is what’s within me, not what’s outside. When we get to find the place of peace, the reaction stops.
But when you have a reaction, it is trying to tell us something. So it’s actually something, it’s a gift for us, for us to bring us to a place where we want to get to.
CeeJay Barnaby (34:52)
Is there any practices that successful clients do between sessions that accelerates their results?
Banya (34:57)
Earlier I told you that any dense and negative energy and emotion has a location within the body, right? Let’s say, I am not good enough. It has a location within the body. And also there’s a location, that’s an energetic location within the body that’s something opposite to that. What is opposite of I am not good enough? I am good. I am powerful. Let’s say that is the opposite.
there is a location within the body.
Let’s say I am warrior. There is an energetic location within the body. Let’s say I am not good enough is right here. Oftentimes people find it in the throat chakra, heart chakra, or second chakra. Let’s say I’m not good enough, they locate it here. And when I ask them, I am powerful, where is it in your body? They might say it’s in my heart chakra.
And you can access that within you during your meditation whenever you need. You can actually feel it. When you say, am not good enough, you feel it there. And when you ask them, what is opposite to it, everyone’s definition different. Let’s say I am powerful. Then you ask them, where is that in your body? Right away, they can locate that.
and you can access it.
CeeJay Barnaby (36:08)
Hmm.
What is the most surprising outcome you’ve seen in someone’s life using your system?
Banya (36:14)
Ow.
I see all kinds of…
success It could be in a relationship It could be in business It could be as simple as finding finding their vision and goals in their lives It could be just simple as like one of the client was he wanted to be a CEO of his company He was fairly young But that was his goal and he thought that
that could happen after maybe 15 or 20 years and I asked him when do you actually want? If I get that right now, that would be great. Well, let’s do that. So that’s something like that.
Yeah, whatever goal, whatever that you want to achieve in your life, we can work on it. But oftentimes what you really, really want is something right behind what you consume trying to get to. Let’s say I want to marry this beautiful girl.
I want to marry this beautiful girl. Like he was just consumed by like I want her. But what he really wanted was right behind it. And that is what’s always within us already.
And strange enough, when you get to access that within you, the external stuff just come. Just come to you easily. Because when you align with that energy, universe has no choice but to give that to you.
CeeJay Barnaby (37:31)
you
Banya (37:36)
because ultimately what we want is the state of energy.
and the physical stuff is so so easy after that.
CeeJay Barnaby (37:44)
Hmm.
Banya (37:44)
You know, I want to be a CEO of my company.
Why do you want it? Actually, what’s it?
But this particular person is a safety.
And when we access that, when we find that within the body, he tapped into it all the time.
and that external experiences match to that emotional state.
CeeJay Barnaby (38:03)
Mmm
Banya (38:05)
Does that make sense?
CeeJay Barnaby (38:06)
It does, yeah, it does, completely.
Banya (38:07)
Yeah.
So if you don’t match, find that within us, we’re going to continuously looking for things outside. Like one good example is one of the actors that I work with, he just wanted to get this some kind of amulet and that’s what he wanted. And I keep telling him, why do you want this amulet? Why do you want it? It’s right behind this. Let’s access it. Like, no, I don’t want to, I don’t want, I don’t even want to look at it. Like I want this.
CeeJay Barnaby (38:16)
Yes.
Mm.
Banya (38:34)
I remember he told me once he got the award, he brought it home and put it in a mantle and he just started sobbing.
because he didn’t feel any difference.
CeeJay Barnaby (38:43)
Yeah, right.
Mm.
Do you recognise what was driving him then?
Banya (38:46)
Yeah, what he wanted was something much deeper and it wasn’t something external either.
CeeJay Barnaby (38:50)
Mmm.
Mm. Mm.
Banya (38:53)
but he had to experience that to know because he was just completely consumed by it so okay let’s just work on that
CeeJay Barnaby (39:02)
Mmm. ⁓
Banya (39:03)
But that’s all of us. We get lost in external things. Let’s say it could be a car, could be a house, whatever that might be. What we want is that state of being. And that state of being, that energy, is already within us. This is why I see each person being so powerful, because they already have that.
CeeJay Barnaby (39:11)
Mm.
Banya (39:26)
They already have that. This is why I see such a wholeness in everybody. And I see such a perfection in everybody because it’s already within them. We just have to find the way to get to there. And then the world matched to that vibration and bring everything that we want. But ultimately that one
So we get lost in having and wanting, right?
I wanna have this, I wanna do this, I wanna have this, I wanna do this, I wanna have this, I wanna do this. Have, do this. Have, do, have to, I wanna do this, I wanna have this, so I can do this, I can.
When you really ask what’s behind it, so what do you want to, what do you think that you will be? And this is the state, energetical state. I think I will be finally free.
So it’s the B that is the key. But we reverse that. If I can have this, I can do this, and I can finally be. So we just have to bring the B part here. And I think this is the practice of meditation.
that helps us to run from here to here. can be. Then you naturally be able to have, and then naturally be able to do.
CeeJay Barnaby (40:36)
That’s a really good point to end on, think that was really nice and clear. Thank you so much. It’s really good to have you on the show today and all that you shared and how can listeners find you and your
Banya (40:47)
You can go to my website. Currently I’m having some issue in my website. banyalim.com or you can email me at info
on the support at banyalim.com support at banyalim.com
CeeJay Barnaby (41:00)
Okay, I’ll
place that detail.
Banya (41:03)
Yeah, I’ll offer
all your audience to have a free clarity session with me. If you mention, if they mention CJ, they can have a free clarity session with me.
CeeJay Barnaby (41:13)
Okay, great. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. All right, Benya, thank you so much for your time. I’ll just say goodbye to everyone.
Banya (41:16)
Welcome.
Thank you. Thank you for having me CJ.
CeeJay Barnaby (41:24)
Banya’s sense of calm and peace really came through in this episode and her understanding of the Meridian systems and balancing the body to bring us back into complete coherence was really nice and clear as expressed by her. Thank you to Banya for coming on the show and if you enjoyed today’s show and you’re on a podcast app, give us five stars, that’d be very nice. And if you’re on YouTube.
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